The gun deaths is the one which amuses me the most.
It figures that gun deaths would amuse you. Only people who are amused by gun deaths are the ones who would be likely to kill.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
My point in making this highly detailed response to your insignificant outburst is that WE are not at all so self imposing as yourself.
Peter Hucker wrote:
You put the US flag on your icon.
Yes, I did place the flag on my Avatar, and I'm very proud of it. I'm proud to live in what others (not you) believe that this is the only country worth living in. How many thousands of people are trying to get into this country? I'm also very proud to have the majestic American Bald Eagle on my Avatar. It resembles our country's spirit by flying high above the land, as opposed to the birds that you keep in cages as your own little 'pets'.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
Every single time someone has something good to say about anything to do with BOINC, including the responses to YOUR web inquiries, you have got to shoot them in the foot. Why can't you simply accept what people say, and let it go at that? My parents used to always tell me "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all."
Peter Hucker wrote:
I call a spade a spade. Until Boinc works properly I will not praise it.
I'm not saying that you need to praise BOINC. What I am saying is "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all." Apparently you can't do that.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
you aren't willing to, or are unable to, buy anything more reasonable than your ancient and tired machinery.
Peter Hucker wrote:
I have two of Ryzen 9 3900XT CPUs. I have a 40" monitor, and 4 others connected to the same machine. I have 8 PCs in total. I do not have rubbish equipment. But to crunch, I see no point in paying 10 times as much for something 4 times faster. I can buy 10 of the slow GPU and do more work. I select my GPUs carefully, flops per £. AMD always come out way ahead of Nvidia.
Oooohh... hit a touchy spot?
GWGeorge007 wrote:
I know that you often buy used or broken motherboards and CPUs and GPUs to "fix" them up, and continue to bash BOINC for all of its troubles.
Peter Hucker wrote:
Boinc doesn't go wrong because of old hardware, it goes wrong because it's badly programmed. The scheduler just doesn't work. I'm always getting the wrong amount of stuff downloaded, I'm always getting it leaving tasks too late and not finishing them on time. It needs constant pampering.
Now I'm told by the Boinc programmers over on Github the problem here often lies with the server software being out of date. But the projects tell me to upgrade the server software is a monumental hassle. So again, Boinc making things unnecessarily difficult. An update should just be a matter of running the installer. The software should run as before with bugs fixed and new options available IF you select them. Nothing should break.
"The scheduler just doesn't work." - But it DOES work, maybe not as well as you'd like it too, but considering that when a project in one country has multiple servers in different countries that need to communicate with each other, and the project in question (Einstein) doesn't have the resources to upgrade everything at the drop of a hat just to please you, you decide to complain? Again, get over yourself.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
Okay, I get it. You don't have a lot of money to spend. FYI, I don't either! But at least I'm not bad mouthing BOINC and anybody better and/or more wealthy than I am.
Peter Hucker wrote:
I only bad mouth the wealthy when they think they're better than me.
By the way I see it, everyone is better than you simply because we can accept things at face value as for what they are. Not for what you think they should be. Do I wish BOINC would work on all levels better than it does now? Sure I do. Do I think that BOINC has all the resources necessary to accomplish what I want it to become? No. I don't. That is the difference between you and me. For better or worse, I can accept the fact that some things are just beyond a person's grasp so I accept what they are. You, on the other hand, cannot accept that without complaining... and complaining... and complaining even more.
I'm happy who I am, and I'm happy things are the way they are. You are not a happy person, and likely never will be. That's just the way things are.
It figures that gun deaths would amuse you. Only people who are amused by gun deaths are the ones who would be likely to kill.
Well that went straight over your head. I'm in the UK, we don't all own guns. We don't shoot each other. It's the Americans who are gun happy. We grew up.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
Yes, I did place the flag on my Avatar, and I'm very proud of it.
Being proud of a country is ridiculous.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
I'm proud to live in what others (not you) believe that this is the only country worth living in.
No, America is the laughing stock of the entire world. And look at the population density of the UK and USA....
GWGeorge007 wrote:
How many thousands of people are trying to get into this country?
Same happens here, but we're not stupid enough to let them in. See those guys who blew up the twin towers, don't let that sort in.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
I'm also very proud to have the majestic American Bald Eagle on my Avatar. It resembles our country's spirit by flying high above the land,
Wouldn't that be the real Americans who own that symbol? The ones you shot when you invaded their country? If you ain't Apache, you're not an American.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
as opposed to the birds that you keep in cages as your own little 'pets'.
You make the invalid assumption they're in cages.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
I'm not saying that you need to praise BOINC. What I am saying is "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all." Apparently you can't do that.
Why keep quiet when something needs fixing? That's precisely the time you need to speak up. If everything worked properly, this forum wouldn't be required.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
Peter Hucker wrote:
I have two of Ryzen 9 3900XT CPUs. I have a 40" monitor, and 4 others connected to the same machine. I have 8 PCs in total. I do not have rubbish equipment. But to crunch, I see no point in paying 10 times as much for something 4 times faster. I can buy 10 of the slow GPU and do more work. I select my GPUs carefully, flops per £. AMD always come out way ahead of Nvidia.
Oooohh... hit a touchy spot?
No, just correcting your invalid assumption.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
"The scheduler just doesn't work." - But it DOES work, maybe not as well as you'd like it too, but considering that when a project in one country has multiple servers in different countries that need to communicate with each other, and the project in question (Einstein) doesn't have the resources to upgrade everything at the drop of a hat just to please you, you decide to complain? Again, get over yourself.
Please try to keep up with the conversation, I'm talking about the Boinc scheduler, not Einstein. It downloads the wrong amount of stuff for all the projects. It can't predict times properly. Well it would if every project updated their server software, but Boinc made that difficult.
[Duplicate rant removed]
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
So we're dealing with incompetance in the programming of the earlier versions.
NO like all programs that get updated some things can be transferred over and some can't, they are TRYING to get Boinc to stop supporting 32bit pc and only support 64bit programming which can make things ALOT easier. They will NOT remove the 32bit versions of Boinc so people with older pc's can still use them if they choose but eventually the 32bit apps will slowly disappear too.
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Why do they persist with credit new when it doesn't work?
Because it's built-in and does work because it's easy and doesn't require any thinking, it's also supposedly more fair between projects but as you know X project uses 'credit new' and Y project doesn't so it's not fair in the end anyway Dr Anderson is committed to it and he's STILL the main man as far as programming for Boinc goes. When he retires who knows what will happen and what won't, some of the main Boinc people still espouse the goodness of the idea of 'credit new' but at some places they are barking up a dead tree.
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Is that what's causing LHC to get banned from Gridcoin?
I wouldn't think so, but you'd have to go back to their response when they were officially asked to be a part of the GridCoin system to be sure.
I'm also very proud to have the majestic American Bald Eagle on my Avatar. It resembles our country's spirit by flying high above the land,
Wouldn't that be the real Americans who own that symbol? The ones you shot when you invaded their country? If you ain't Apache, you're not an American.
Sorry you need to keep up with Genealogy it turns out American Indians have ALOT of Chinese DNA in them meaning they probably came over the ice land bridge between Russia and the US. MOST of the rest of their DNA comes from from what is now South America.
Because it's built-in and does work because it's easy and doesn't require any thinking, it's also supposedly more fair between projects but as you know X project uses 'credit new' and Y project doesn't so it's not fair in the end anyway Dr Anderson is committed to it and he's STILL the main man as far as programming for Boinc goes. When he retires who knows what will happen and what won't, some of the main Boinc people still espouse the goodness of the idea of 'credit new' but at some places they are barking up a dead tree.
People refer to it as credit skew, because it's unfair.
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I wouldn't think so, but you'd have to go back to their response when they were officially asked to be a part of the GridCoin system to be sure.
It was something to do with being able to say you were running an ATLAS task on 8 cores, but you really run it on one. They give you credits for 8 cores running for 3 hours, when you were only using 1, and running 8 lots of them. So you get credits for 64 cores instead of 8. I assumed that was credit new allowing that. But it could be LHC's weird idea of giving you credits for time spent rather than results achieved.
Now Primegrid ASKED to be removed, which was stupid. I said as much in the forum and was given some stupid reason, I can't remember what it was but it made no sense at all.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Sorry you need to keep up with Genealogy it turns out American Indians have ALOT of Chinese DNA in them meaning they probably came over the ice land bridge between Russia and the US. MOST of the rest of their DNA comes from from what is now South America.
The difference is they didn't kill any existing people to get their land.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
I wouldn't think so, but you'd have to go back to their response when they were officially asked to be a part of the GridCoin system to be sure.
It was something to do with being able to say you were running an ATLAS task on 8 cores, but you really run it on one. They give you credits for 8 cores running for 3 hours, when you were only using 1, and running 8 lots of them. So you get credits for 64 cores instead of 8. I assumed that was credit new allowing that. But it could be LHC's weird idea of giving you credits for time spent rather than results achieved.
Yes GC's are at least partially based on credits so if people were finding a way to cheat that would be one reason for projects not being allowed to join GC.
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Now Primegrid ASKED to be removed, which was stupid. I said as much in the forum and was given some stupid reason, I can't remember what it was but it made no sense at all.
Well sorta PG was asked to join the GC thing and they said 'no thanks' because like the cheating that happened at Collatz they didn't want any part of that. Some of the tasks at PG give out 1 million credits each, the DYFL tasks on a gpu, that could be an easy target for cheating which PG wanted no part of. They also talked about the influx of new users putting a stress on their system, that was before they moved their Data Servers to a new hosting company, but I'm guessing they would say the same thing today. Although I wish PG would become a part of the GC system as it would give another very stable well run Project for people to earn GC's as we are running out of them, although Ithena Comp says it will apply to be a part of them once they get things stable enough.
Gary Charpentier wrote:While
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Not if another computer is waiting for me to reconfigure a boinc screwup, or kick a sleepy GPU.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Peter Hucker wrote:The gun
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It figures that gun deaths would amuse you. Only people who are amused by gun deaths are the ones who would be likely to kill.
Yes, I did place the flag on my Avatar, and I'm very proud of it. I'm proud to live in what others (not you) believe that this is the only country worth living in. How many thousands of people are trying to get into this country? I'm also very proud to have the majestic American Bald Eagle on my Avatar. It resembles our country's spirit by flying high above the land, as opposed to the birds that you keep in cages as your own little 'pets'.
I'm not saying that you need to praise BOINC. What I am saying is "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all." Apparently you can't do that.
Oooohh... hit a touchy spot?
"The scheduler just doesn't work." - But it DOES work, maybe not as well as you'd like it too, but considering that when a project in one country has multiple servers in different countries that need to communicate with each other, and the project in question (Einstein) doesn't have the resources to upgrade everything at the drop of a hat just to please you, you decide to complain? Again, get over yourself.
By the way I see it, everyone is better than you simply because we can accept things at face value as for what they are. Not for what you think they should be. Do I wish BOINC would work on all levels better than it does now? Sure I do. Do I think that BOINC has all the resources necessary to accomplish what I want it to become? No. I don't. That is the difference between you and me. For better or worse, I can accept the fact that some things are just beyond a person's grasp so I accept what they are. You, on the other hand, cannot accept that without complaining... and complaining... and complaining even more.
I'm happy who I am, and I'm happy things are the way they are. You are not a happy person, and likely never will be. That's just the way things are.
Proud member of the Old Farts Association
GWGeorge007 wrote:It figures
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Well that went straight over your head. I'm in the UK, we don't all own guns. We don't shoot each other. It's the Americans who are gun happy. We grew up.
Being proud of a country is ridiculous.
No, America is the laughing stock of the entire world. And look at the population density of the UK and USA....
Same happens here, but we're not stupid enough to let them in. See those guys who blew up the twin towers, don't let that sort in.
Wouldn't that be the real Americans who own that symbol? The ones you shot when you invaded their country? If you ain't Apache, you're not an American.
You make the invalid assumption they're in cages.
Why keep quiet when something needs fixing? That's precisely the time you need to speak up. If everything worked properly, this forum wouldn't be required.
No, just correcting your invalid assumption.
Please try to keep up with the conversation, I'm talking about the Boinc scheduler, not Einstein. It downloads the wrong amount of stuff for all the projects. It can't predict times properly. Well it would if every project updated their server software, but Boinc made that difficult.
[Duplicate rant removed]
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Peter Hucker wrote:So we're
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NO like all programs that get updated some things can be transferred over and some can't, they are TRYING to get Boinc to stop supporting 32bit pc and only support 64bit programming which can make things ALOT easier. They will NOT remove the 32bit versions of Boinc so people with older pc's can still use them if they choose but eventually the 32bit apps will slowly disappear too.
Because it's built-in and does work because it's easy and doesn't require any thinking, it's also supposedly more fair between projects but as you know X project uses 'credit new' and Y project doesn't so it's not fair in the end anyway Dr Anderson is committed to it and he's STILL the main man as far as programming for Boinc goes. When he retires who knows what will happen and what won't, some of the main Boinc people still espouse the goodness of the idea of 'credit new' but at some places they are barking up a dead tree.
I wouldn't think so, but you'd have to go back to their response when they were officially asked to be a part of the GridCoin system to be sure.
Peter Hucker
)
Sorry you need to keep up with Genealogy it turns out American Indians have ALOT of Chinese DNA in them meaning they probably came over the ice land bridge between Russia and the US. MOST of the rest of their DNA comes from from what is now South America.
mikey wrote:Because it's
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People refer to it as credit skew, because it's unfair.
It was something to do with being able to say you were running an ATLAS task on 8 cores, but you really run it on one. They give you credits for 8 cores running for 3 hours, when you were only using 1, and running 8 lots of them. So you get credits for 64 cores instead of 8. I assumed that was credit new allowing that. But it could be LHC's weird idea of giving you credits for time spent rather than results achieved.
Now Primegrid ASKED to be removed, which was stupid. I said as much in the forum and was given some stupid reason, I can't remember what it was but it made no sense at all.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
mikey wrote:Sorry you need to
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The difference is they didn't kill any existing people to get their land.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Peter Hucker wrote: Quote:I
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Yes GC's are at least partially based on credits so if people were finding a way to cheat that would be one reason for projects not being allowed to join GC.
Well sorta PG was asked to join the GC thing and they said 'no thanks' because like the cheating that happened at Collatz they didn't want any part of that. Some of the tasks at PG give out 1 million credits each, the DYFL tasks on a gpu, that could be an easy target for cheating which PG wanted no part of. They also talked about the influx of new users putting a stress on their system, that was before they moved their Data Servers to a new hosting company, but I'm guessing they would say the same thing today. Although I wish PG would become a part of the GC system as it would give another very stable well run Project for people to earn GC's as we are running out of them, although Ithena Comp says it will apply to be a part of them once they get things stable enough.
Peter Hucker wrote:Not if
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Just because you don't know how to multi-task is your personal problem.
I'm getting quite sick of
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I'm getting quite sick of this pointless back and forth sniping.
Haven't you guys got something better to do?
I'll ask, very nicely just once, for the current protagonists to please cease and desist.
Cheers,
Gary.