Boinc is not doing fine, it has an unbelievable amount of bugs which waste the time of scientists and servers and volunteers.
You could always write your own like people have done at MilkyWay and even the tweaks done here for Linux pc's.
No he won't for years all I've seen is negativity
I have NEVER seen ANYTHING positive come from him... at ALL!!!
If he doesn't like something, he complains and complains. He has yet in the 5 years I've been on BOINC said anything nice about anything anyone has to say. Maybe he's been somewhat agreeable with someone... but he has always been a P@$%-in-the-$@S.
I have NEVER seen ANYTHING positive come from him... at ALL!!!
That's because I'm not a pushover that accepts anything.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
If he doesn't like something, he complains and complains. He has yet in the 5 years I've been on BOINC said anything nice about anything anyone has to say. Maybe he's been somewhat agreeable with someone... but he has always been a P@$%-in-the-$@S.
And so is your flag. Do you think America is better than everyone else?
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
I have NEVER seen ANYTHING positive come from him... at ALL!!!
That's because I'm not a pushover that accepts anything.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
If he doesn't like something, he complains and complains. He has yet in the 5 years I've been on BOINC said anything nice about anything anyone has to say. Maybe he's been somewhat agreeable with someone... but he has always been a P@$%-in-the-$@S.
And so is your flag. Do you think America is better than everyone else?
Okay, so you're not a pushover. Do I think America is better than everyone else? Not at ALL!!
A country’s citizens can rally around certain causes they feel strongly about: human rights, the environment and religious freedom, to name a few. Support for these causes can create a sense of cultural cohesion within countries, and help their people identify as having a shared sense of purpose.
In 2018, when the test was last administered, the U.S. placed 11th out of 79 countries in science. It did much worse in math, ranking 30th. In fact, there's been no detectable change in U.S. students' math scores since 2003.
The U.S. Spends More on Health Care than any other country, and yet the U.S. has the lowest life expectancy and our suicide rates are the highest.
This analysis used data from the 2019 release of health statistics compiled by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), which tracks and reports on a wide range of health system measures across 36 high-income countries.
My point in making this highly detailed response to your insignificant outburst is that WE are not at all so self imposing as yourself. Every single time someone has something good to say about anything to do with BOINC, including the responses to YOUR web inquiries, you have got to shoot them in the foot. Why can't you simply accept what people say, and let it go at that? My parents used to always tell me "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all."
I know what you're about to say - "Well why don't you shut up and do what you were told?" I just can't take anymore of your constant indignant remarks because you aren't willing to, or are unable to, buy anything more reasonable than your ancient and tired machinery.
I know that you often buy used or broken motherboards and CPUs and GPUs to "fix" them up, and continue to bash BOINC for all of its troubles. Okay, I get it. You don't have a lot of money to spend. FYI, I don't either! But at least I'm not bad mouthing BOINC and anybody better and/or more wealthy than I am.
I don't give an F about how fast the forum is. I care if the project is doing good science. Anyone who isn't putting the science first should disconnect from every BOINC project and stay on Truth Social.
Okay, so you're not a pushover. Do I think America is better than everyone else? Not at ALL!!
I know we have a lot of faults... a LOT!!
[snip]
The gun deaths is the one which amuses me the most. But what annoys me is the patriotism. Most Americans do not realise their country isn't the very best.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
My point in making this highly detailed response to your insignificant outburst is that WE are not at all so self imposing as yourself.
You put the US flag on your icon.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
Every single time someone has something good to say about anything to do with BOINC, including the responses to YOUR web inquiries, you have got to shoot them in the foot. Why can't you simply accept what people say, and let it go at that? My parents used to always tell me "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all."
I call a spade a spade. Until Boinc works properly I will not praise it.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
you aren't willing to, or are unable to, buy anything more reasonable than your ancient and tired machinery.
I have two of Ryzen 9 3900XT CPUs. I have a 40" monitor, and 4 others connected to the same machine. I have 8 PCs in total. I do not have rubbish equipment. But to crunch, I see no point in paying 10 times as much for something 4 times faster. I can buy 10 of the slow GPU and do more work. I select my GPUs carefully, flops per £. AMD always come out way ahead of Nvidia.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
I know that you often buy used or broken motherboards and CPUs and GPUs to "fix" them up, and continue to bash BOINC for all of its troubles.
Boinc doesn't go wrong because of old hardware, it goes wrong because it's badly programmed. The scheduler just doesn't work. I'm always getting the wrong amount of stuff downloaded, I'm always getting it leaving tasks too late and not finishing them on time. It needs constant pampering.
Now I'm told by the Boinc programmers over on Github the problem here often lies with the server software being out of date. But the projects tell me to upgrade the server software is a monumental hassle. So again, Boinc making things unnecessarily difficult. An update should just be a matter of running the installer. The software should run as before with bugs fixed and new options available IF you select them. Nothing should break.
GWGeorge007 wrote:
Okay, I get it. You don't have a lot of money to spend. FYI, I don't either! But at least I'm not bad mouthing BOINC and anybody better and/or more wealthy than I am.
I only bad mouth the wealthy when they think they're better than me.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
I don't give an F about how fast the forum is. I care if the project is doing good science. Anyone who isn't putting the science first should disconnect from every BOINC project and stay on Truth Social.
Wasting my time sitting looking at a spinning hourglass on the forum is taking me away from doing the science. And if we put science first, everyone would be doing projects like folding and this project would get nothing done. Cancer research comes first, always.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Now I'm told by the Boinc programmers over on Github the problem here often lies with the server software being out of date. But the projects tell me to upgrade the server software is a monumental hassle. So again, Boinc making things unnecessarily difficult. An update should just be a matter of running the installer. The software should run as before with bugs fixed and new options available IF you select them. Nothing should break.
It's alot of trouble due to all the tweaks the projects put in over time to make things work better for them that then don't easily transfer over to the new version of the Server side software. Every time a new version comes out the Projects groan because of all the upcoming work they have to do just to get ready to switch over. Due to the way it was written originally changing things is a pain in the butt and you often have to make the same change in several places as they aren't all globally accepted in the software. The other thing that needs changing is the way the credits are given out, by default the new software comes with Credit New and changing that too is not as easy as changing a few lines here or there.
But we are straying from the 'slow forum' idea, is it faster or at least not any slower that before?
I don't give an F about how fast the forum is. I care if the project is doing good science. Anyone who isn't putting the science first should disconnect from every BOINC project and stay on Truth Social.
Wasting my time sitting looking at a spinning hourglass on the forum is taking me away from doing the science.
mikey wrote: Peter Hucker
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No he won't for years all I've seen is negativity
Betreger wrote: mikey
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I have NEVER seen ANYTHING positive come from him... at ALL!!!
If he doesn't like something, he complains and complains. He has yet in the 5 years I've been on BOINC said anything nice about anything anyone has to say. Maybe he's been somewhat agreeable with someone... but he has always been a P@$%-in-the-$@S.
Proud member of the Old Farts Association
GWGeorge007 wrote:I have
)
That's because I'm not a pushover that accepts anything.
And so is your flag. Do you think America is better than everyone else?
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Peter Hucker
)
Okay, so you're not a pushover. Do I think America is better than everyone else? Not at ALL!!
I know we have a lot of faults... a LOT!!
This was taken from:
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/social-purpose
Social Purpose
A country’s citizens can rally around certain causes they feel strongly about: human rights, the environment and religious freedom, to name a few. Support for these causes can create a sense of cultural cohesion within countries, and help their people identify as having a shared sense of purpose.
United States
#21 in Quality of Life
#4 in Best Countries Overall
In 2018, when the test was last administered, the U.S. placed 11th out of 79 countries in science. It did much worse in math, ranking 30th. In fact, there's been no detectable change in U.S. students' math scores since 2003.
The U.S. Spends More on Health Care than any other country, and yet the U.S. has the lowest life expectancy and our suicide rates are the highest.
This analysis used data from the 2019 release of health statistics compiled by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), which tracks and reports on a wide range of health system measures across 36 high-income countries.
My point in making this highly detailed response to your insignificant outburst is that WE are not at all so self imposing as yourself. Every single time someone has something good to say about anything to do with BOINC, including the responses to YOUR web inquiries, you have got to shoot them in the foot. Why can't you simply accept what people say, and let it go at that? My parents used to always tell me "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all."
I know what you're about to say - "Well why don't you shut up and do what you were told?" I just can't take anymore of your constant indignant remarks because you aren't willing to, or are unable to, buy anything more reasonable than your ancient and tired machinery.
I know that you often buy used or broken motherboards and CPUs and GPUs to "fix" them up, and continue to bash BOINC for all of its troubles. Okay, I get it. You don't have a lot of money to spend. FYI, I don't either! But at least I'm not bad mouthing BOINC and anybody better and/or more wealthy than I am.
Proud member of the Old Farts Association
I don't give an F about how
)
I don't give an F about how fast the forum is. I care if the project is doing good science. Anyone who isn't putting the science first should disconnect from every BOINC project and stay on Truth Social.
GWGeorge007 wrote:Okay, so
)
[snip]
The gun deaths is the one which amuses me the most. But what annoys me is the patriotism. Most Americans do not realise their country isn't the very best.
You put the US flag on your icon.
I call a spade a spade. Until Boinc works properly I will not praise it.
I have two of Ryzen 9 3900XT CPUs. I have a 40" monitor, and 4 others connected to the same machine. I have 8 PCs in total. I do not have rubbish equipment. But to crunch, I see no point in paying 10 times as much for something 4 times faster. I can buy 10 of the slow GPU and do more work. I select my GPUs carefully, flops per £. AMD always come out way ahead of Nvidia.
Boinc doesn't go wrong because of old hardware, it goes wrong because it's badly programmed. The scheduler just doesn't work. I'm always getting the wrong amount of stuff downloaded, I'm always getting it leaving tasks too late and not finishing them on time. It needs constant pampering.
Now I'm told by the Boinc programmers over on Github the problem here often lies with the server software being out of date. But the projects tell me to upgrade the server software is a monumental hassle. So again, Boinc making things unnecessarily difficult. An update should just be a matter of running the installer. The software should run as before with bugs fixed and new options available IF you select them. Nothing should break.
I only bad mouth the wealthy when they think they're better than me.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Gary Charpentier wrote:I
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Wasting my time sitting looking at a spinning hourglass on the forum is taking me away from doing the science. And if we put science first, everyone would be doing projects like folding and this project would get nothing done. Cancer research comes first, always.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Peter Hucker wrote: Now
)
It's alot of trouble due to all the tweaks the projects put in over time to make things work better for them that then don't easily transfer over to the new version of the Server side software. Every time a new version comes out the Projects groan because of all the upcoming work they have to do just to get ready to switch over. Due to the way it was written originally changing things is a pain in the butt and you often have to make the same change in several places as they aren't all globally accepted in the software. The other thing that needs changing is the way the credits are given out, by default the new software comes with Credit New and changing that too is not as easy as changing a few lines here or there.
But we are straying from the 'slow forum' idea, is it faster or at least not any slower that before?
So we're dealing with
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So we're dealing with incompetance in the programming of the earlier versions.
Why do they persist with credit new when it doesn't work? Is that what's causing LHC to get banned from Gridcoin?
We're not straying, the forum is slow because Einstein aren't using the latest Boinc forum software.
Nothing has changed, it's slow based on how long the thread is.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Peter Hucker wrote: Gary
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While it spins your computer is doing science.