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Harri Liljeroos
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Part of the slowness comes

Part of the slowness comes from the web platform (Drupal) used here. Other Boinc projects do not use it to my knowledge.

mikey
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Harri Liljeroos wrote: Part

Harri Liljeroos wrote:

Part of the slowness comes from the web platform (Drupal) used here. Other Boinc projects do not use it to my knowledge. 

I read yesterday that IBM used it and Kembril isn't or vice versa and that's part of the problem at World Community Grid and pc's not being able to be moved to other venues or even seen on the website for at least 2 days after you attach them!!

HAL
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This forum has always been

This forum has always been slow for me - no others I go to are like four seconds between mouse click and response.

Not complaining, just adding data.

Processing work units with "outdated" (according to Microsoft) Ryzen 7 1700

Gary Charpentier
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Peter Hucker wrote:I don't

Peter Hucker wrote:

I don't understand.  Do you mean I post this, connect to the forum server, then it checks I'm logged in in another country?  Why is that seperate?  And why would that make it slower if the conversation is longer?

Yes.  The forum server has to talk to the science servers to get your credit.  The intentionally want the science servers on a different (non-disclosed) IP to make it harder for bad people to do bad things.  They also can set the science servers to IGNORE any requests except from a few IP's.

As to slower is longer, do an experiment and log out, time a short thread and a long thread.  When logged out you get oldest posts first, not where you stopped reading.  I'm guessing it has to render all the pages you have already seen to get to the first page of new posts for you.  I'd expect that to take some processor time.  Don't forget this is all FREE software, not the highly expensive optimized stuff of a high volume commercial website with CDN's.

Mr P Hucker
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Gary Charpentier

Gary Charpentier wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

I don't understand.  Do you mean I post this, connect to the forum server, then it checks I'm logged in in another country?  Why is that seperate?  And why would that make it slower if the conversation is longer?

Yes.  The forum server has to talk to the science servers to get your credit.  The intentionally want the science servers on a different (non-disclosed) IP to make it harder for bad people to do bad things.  They also can set the science servers to IGNORE any requests except from a few IP's.

As to slower is longer, do an experiment and log out, time a short thread and a long thread.  When logged out you get oldest posts first, not where you stopped reading.  I'm guessing it has to render all the pages you have already seen to get to the first page of new posts for you.  I'd expect that to take some processor time.  Don't forget this is all FREE software, not the highly expensive optimized stuff of a high volume commercial website with CDN's.

So the other Boinc projects either have better software, faster servers, or are skipping on security?

If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.

Gary Charpentier
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Peter Hucker wrote:So the

Peter Hucker wrote:
So the other Boinc projects either have better software, faster servers, or are skipping on security?

Did you not read all the messages here?  The one that this forum is on Dupral not BOINC?

 

Mr P Hucker
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Gary Charpentier

Gary Charpentier wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
So the other Boinc projects either have better software, faster servers, or are skipping on security?

Did you not read all the messages here?

Yes, what makes you think I didn't?

Gary Charpentier wrote:
The one that this forum is on Dupral not BOINC?

Then they oughta ditch it.  There's actually something worse than Boinc, how ridiculous.

If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.

GWGeorge007
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Peter Hucker wrote: Gary

Peter Hucker wrote:

Gary Charpentier wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
So the other Boinc projects either have better software, faster servers, or are skipping on security?

Did you not read all the messages here?

Yes, what makes you think I didn't?

Gary Charpentier wrote:
The one that this forum is on Dupral not BOINC?

Then they oughta ditch it.  There's actually something worse than Boinc, how ridiculous.

Get over yourself!  What makes you so high-and-mighty that YOU expect the world to bend to YOUR wishes or desires.  BOINC is doing just fine, and so is Einstein!  If you'd get over your cheap ways of doing anything and get up to speed, at least in the current century, you wouldn't be complaining anymore.

...JSHeeesh!!

George

Proud member of the Old Farts Association

Mr P Hucker
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You're asking *me* to get up

You're asking *me* to get up to speed?  It's this website that's not up to speed.  Never seen any forum for any purpose go this slow.

As for your suggestion I shouldn't be cheap, well perhaps you should realise not everyone is loaded with cash.

Boinc is not doing fine, it has an unbelievable amount of bugs which waste the time of scientists and servers and volunteers.

If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.

mikey
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Peter Hucker wrote: Boinc is

Peter Hucker wrote:

Boinc is not doing fine, it has an unbelievable amount of bugs which waste the time of scientists and servers and volunteers. 

You could always write your own like people have done at MilkyWay and even the tweaks done here for Linux pc's.

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