won't finish in time

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I have aa Win XP machine running 5 projects.
"Message from server: No work sent ( won't finish in time) Computer on 44.1% of time, BOINC on 44.1% of that, Einstein gets 16.7% of that."
I wonder about the calculation because BOINC is running based on preferences (in the background) it seems suspecious that BOINC is getting the same percent as the computer is on. I agree Einstein gets 16.7% of BOINC time. Do I just need to increase the percent for Einstein or is this an error? The current WU will finish in about 16.5 hrs on my machine.

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won't finish in time

What is your setting to contact the server? Are you using a different one than from the other projects you are crunching?

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> What is your setting to

Message 5307 in response to message 5306

> What is your setting to contact the server? Are you using a different one than
> from the other projects you are crunching?
>
The settings are the same for all 5 projects.

fj
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Hi, I have been

Hi,

I have been told:

'Einstein@Home - 2005-02-26 19:04:51 - Message from server: No work sent (won't finish in time) Computer on 11.1% of time, BOINC on 11.1% of that, Einstein gets 44.4% of that'

(time is CET)

This is my second einstein-WU, in total! Isn't it quite gamy to do statistics like this based on so little data? Those numbers concerning uptime are completely wrong, needless to say :-)

The result finished about one hour later, the client is crying for work, the scheduler is not running now :-(

Frank

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> Hi, > > I have been

Message 5309 in response to message 5308

> Hi,
>
> I have been told:
>
> 'Einstein@Home - 2005-02-26 19:04:51 - Message from server: No work sent
> (won't finish in time) Computer on 11.1% of time, BOINC on 11.1% of that,
> Einstein gets 44.4% of that'
>
The basic answer is "won't finish in time" and it was discussed already that extending the waiting for results period would require to extend E@H server capabilities which is costy.

What's strange however is those 11.1% and 11.1% repeated.
I get the same on my PCs (not 11.1% but percents are being equal). It looks strange the %% are the same. I guess there is some sort of a bug estimating "BOINC on X% of that".

fj
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> The basic answer is "won't

Message 5310 in response to message 5309


> The basic answer is "won't finish in time" and it was discussed already that
> extending the waiting for results period would require to extend E@H server
> capabilities which is costy.

Absolutely agreed!

But the basic assumption is wrong. I finished two results during the past three days and that results deadlines were 5th of march or something similar.

The problem possibly vanishes with time and better statistics. All I need then, is new work - and here we have the vicious circle.

But let's see what happens, when the scheduler recovers.

Ciao,
Frank

John McLeod VII
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> > > The basic answer is

Message 5311 in response to message 5310

>
> > The basic answer is "won't finish in time" and it was discussed already
> that
> > extending the waiting for results period would require to extend E@H
> server
> > capabilities which is costy.
>
> Absolutely agreed!
>
> But the basic assumption is wrong. I finished two results during the past
> three days and that results deadlines were 5th of march or something similar.
>
> The problem possibly vanishes with time and better statistics. All I need
> then, is new work - and here we have the vicious circle.
>
> But let's see what happens, when the scheduler recovers.
>
> Ciao,
> Frank
>
Leave BOINC running even if you have no work. This is one of the times that is used in the calculation.

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What version of BOINC are you

What version of BOINC are you running?

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> > > The basic answer is

Message 5313 in response to message 5310

>
> > The basic answer is "won't finish in time" and it was discussed already
> that
> > extending the waiting for results period would require to extend E@H
> server
> > capabilities which is costy.
>
> Absolutely agreed!
>
> But the basic assumption is wrong. I finished two results during the past
> three days and that results deadlines were 5th of march or something similar.
>
> The problem possibly vanishes with time and better statistics. All I need
> then, is new work - and here we have the vicious circle.

The vicious circle should be broken by the following:

IF you have no uncompleted work for E@H, THEN the E@H scheduler will ALWAYS send you at least one new WU (provided that you meet the memory and disk space constraints). You may need to do 'update project' so that the scheduler knows you are out of work.

Bruce

Director, Einstein@Home

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is there a way to remove work

is there a way to remove work units from from the cache? I increased my cache too large and i recieved too much work... I have units that I haven't started processing that are already past deadline as well as processing units that are already past due date. I have 10 units in my work tab that are past the report date.... I hate doing this work for nothing....help

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> > The vicious circle

Message 5315 in response to message 5313

>
> The vicious circle should be broken by the following:
>
> IF you have no uncompleted work for E@H, THEN the E@H scheduler will ALWAYS
> send you at least one new WU

Bruce,

thank you for your answer. And: Yes, it did :-)

John McLeod VII,

thats exactly what I did. And it worked.

BOINC Version is 4.19, I think - the latest stable one, in any case.

Thx, folks!

fj

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