Why do I get a "deferred for24 hours" when I try to sign up in BOINC manager?
10 May 2019 16:04:15 UTC
Topic 218837
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When I try to sign up again with Einstein@home in BOINC Manager it will eventually say "deferred for 24 hours" and not show any work done. I do have an account with Einstein@home and I already have ~909k credits still with 753 average credits. I had removed Einstein@home from BOINC Manager to allow SETI@home to try to catch up in total credits. I don't think it has been over two weeks since removing it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
George
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Sign in rather than sign on
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Sign in rather than sign on
For your information I have
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For your information I have already done so, even closed out BOINC Manager and rebooted. I was trying to sign on to BOINC Manager WHILE I was still signed into Einstein@home. And I tried it while not being signed in, same results.
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you tried using your weak
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you tried using your weak account key ?
like so :
to attach a computer to your account without using the BOINC Manager. To do so, install BOINC, create a file named account_lhcathome.cern.ch_lhcathome.xml in the BOINC data directory, and set its contents to:
<account> <master_url>https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/</master_url> <authenticator>225558_d56861e5d5678454e9f122072333f042</authenticator> </account>Did you suspend Einstein or
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Did you suspend Einstein or did you detach from the project? If suspended, simply resume. If you detached you will need to join the project again with your login.
The reason you are not getting any work is you have 12 errors from not completing your assigned work before they hit deadline. Any error on your host account puts you into a 24 hour penalty box. As soon as you return validated work the 24 hour backoff will expire along with your reduced task quota.
You can't rush the 24 hour backoff, if you try, it will simply start another 24 hour backoff. I dealt with this issue just a while ago while trying to deploy a beta application that errored out.
".....The reason you are not
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".....The reason you are not getting any work is you have 12 errors from not completing your assigned work before they hit deadline. Any error on your host account puts you into a 24 hour penalty box. As soon as you return validated work the 24 hour backoff will expire along with your reduced task quota....."
Thank you Keith for that explanation. It does make sense (sort of) that Einstein would impose a penalty. But I'm a bit puzzled with how I can get back online and do work again while the penalty is being imposed? I did remove Einstein@home from the project as opposed to just suspending it. I do not know how to sign back up other than doing so in BOINC Manager. When I do so it says "deferred 24 hrs" (or something like that). Will BOINC Manager eventually allow me to get my Einstein@home project back online if I just wait it out? I have already waited a 24 hour period and it deferred to another 24 hours.
While I have you're attention, I'd like to ask another question for when I do get Einstein@home back.
At the moment I still have an old processor (i7-950) with 4 cores, 8 threads, and it does use all 8 threads for the project(s), and one cuda core (my GPU is also an old ASUS Nvidia GT220 w/1GB ram). How do I get my projects to follow my preferences for "resource share"?
What I have done for using SETI@home and Einstein@home is set 50% resource share for both projects. When I have Milkyway@home running also, then I set my resource share to 50%/SETI, 25%/Einstein, and 25%/Milkyway. In the project display window (in BOINC Manager) it does show my preferences (as above), but in the task window it may show all 8 cores being used for SETI, or Einstein, or Milkyway, or any combination of 8 cores for the different projects.
Thanks again!
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George wrote:I did remove
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You'll have to give more information. Is Einstein@Home now listed in the Projects tab and what is its status? Describe in detail what you do to trigger the "deferred 24 hrs or something like that" message. And show the exact logs at that time. Maybe someone can help you then.
They will, if you give them time. The resource share is not designed for quick changes.
That does not mean that BOINC will from now on run 50% SETI, 25% Einstein and 25% Milkyway. It will take the current state into account. You increased the share for Milkyway so BOINC will run a lot of that to catch up. And you decreased Einstein's share so little or nothing of that will run for a while. It can take days or even weeks for priorities to settle, depending on how big the changes were. And in the meantime other disturbances can happen.
When you detached from the
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When you detached from the project and then rejoined, you automatically enacted a <next_rpc_time>86400.000000</next_rpc_time> scheduler delay of 24 hours because you received no work from the project because of your errors.
Normally after joining a project, the project will send you exactly one work unit for the first day. This is to probe out your host as being able to successfully complete work before sending you any more work.
You just have to wait out the penalty. Once that is expired the project will send you work. As long as you complete it with a valid result before the deadline, the project will reward you by increasing your max tasks allowed per day. Each time you return a valid task, you will get an increasing amount of work up to what the projects limit is set. As soon as you return bad results, the project will keep decreasing the amount of work sent to you until you return valid work again. This is an automatic throttling process to ensure that only capable hosts get work and return valid work.
Resource share is based on Recent Estimated Credit per project and is a long baseline value. It takes many months to stabilize.
When I do so it says
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floyd wrote:George
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To Floyd, Keith Meyers, and
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To Floyd, Keith Meyers, and Dan Neely,
I THANK YOU all so very much for the thorough explanations you gave me. I now understand what transpires when I remove a project from the BOINC Manager and what it takes for my ageing computer to get back up and running. I know that I have been impatient at times, and even more so when I don't think things are going right in my computer. But now that I do know I will definitely wait it out, even if it takes weeks to get work again.
Now if it takes months... well... I guess I'll still have to wait.
Thank you guys AGAIN, you have been very helpful.
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