Why can't I get new work?

Paul Lester
Paul Lester
Joined: 21 Feb 05
Posts: 12
Credit: 378662
RAC: 0
Topic 190735

I am making connection. I have not suspended work and I did not indicate to send no new work. Why don't I get new work?

2/7/2006 11:39:29 PM|Einstein@Home|Sending scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi
2/7/2006 11:39:29 PM|Einstein@Home|Reason: Requested by user
2/7/2006 11:39:29 PM|Einstein@Home|Note: not requesting new work or reporting results
2/7/2006 11:39:34 PM|Einstein@Home|Scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi succeeded

Pooh Bear 27
Pooh Bear 27
Joined: 20 Mar 05
Posts: 1376
Credit: 20312671
RAC: 0

Why can't I get new work?

Quote:
2/7/2006 11:39:29 PM|Einstein@Home|Note: not requesting new work or reporting results


You are doing more than one project? The way the scheduler works is on a debt system, so you are probably over your debt on Einstein so other project(s) are running until the debt is repaid.

Read the WIKI on this error.

seachange_au
seachange_au
Joined: 16 Dec 05
Posts: 2
Credit: 243
RAC: 0

RE: RE: 2/7/2006 11:39:29

Message 24936 in response to message 24935

Quote:
Quote:
2/7/2006 11:39:29 PM|Einstein@Home|Note: not requesting new work or reporting results

You are doing more than one project? The way the scheduler works is on a debt system, so you are probably over your debt on Einstein so other project(s) are running until the debt is repaid.

Read the WIKI on this error.


Can I have that again in english please :) and a direct link to the wiki area - I can't find it in the mass of info - it's sort of like you have to be able to spell to use a dictionary so you can check your spelling!

Michael Roycraft
Michael Roycraft
Joined: 10 Mar 05
Posts: 846
Credit: 157718
RAC: 0

RE: ... and a direct link

Message 24937 in response to message 24936

Quote:
... and a direct link to the wiki area - I can't find it in the mass of info - it's sort of like you have to be able to spell to use a dictionary so you can check your spelling!

The Wiki is available from the Einstein homepage. I'll provide you with a link, but not an explanation. This "no work" issue has been covered ad nauseum throughout the helpdesk boards; if you bother to check before posting, you'll most likely find the answers to most of your questions. Here is the link to the BoincWiki.

microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK

Pooh Bear 27
Pooh Bear 27
Joined: 20 Mar 05
Posts: 1376
Credit: 20312671
RAC: 0

RE: Can I have that again

Message 24938 in response to message 24936

Quote:
Can I have that again in english please :) and a direct link to the wiki area - I can't find it in the mass of info - it's sort of like you have to be able to spell to use a dictionary so you can check your spelling!

Well, my signature had the direct link to the WIKI in big bold letters.

If you run more than one project, there is a debt sysem for resources. So if you are doing 20% Einstein and 80% something else, it tallies the time it took to do certain work. Say Einstein ran for 4 hours, and now the other project needs to run 16 hours to catch up. This will set a disallow new work for a while.

Even worse, if you stop a project for a while, that debt will climb until you restart it, and then all that time will have to be paid back.

So in essence, Einstein thinks it has done too much for now, and is waiting until enough time on the other project(s) catch up.

If your machine is in Earliest Deadline First (EDF) mode, it also will not allow other projects to download. If you keep a large cache of results to crunch, and BOINC thinks it can not finish them before the deadline, it stops all new work from projects.

Just simple weights and measures (well not that simple)...

Ricky@SETI.USA
Ricky@SETI.USA
Joined: 9 Sep 05
Posts: 85
Credit: 1519191
RAC: 0

RE: RE: .....you have to

Message 24939 in response to message 24936

Quote:
Quote:


.....you have to be able to spell to use a dictionary so you can check your spelling!

Sorry, I look up words all the time that I can't spell! When you find the word you think you want just check to see what the word means!


Ricky@SETI.USA
Ricky@SETI.USA
Joined: 9 Sep 05
Posts: 85
Credit: 1519191
RAC: 0

RE: RE: RE: .....you

Message 24940 in response to message 24939

Quote:
Quote:

Quote:

.....you have to be able to spell to use a dictionary so you can check your spelling!

Sorry, I look up words all the time that I can't spell! When you find the word you think you want just check to see what the word means!

In my case I did have my E@H set to "No New Work" in order to reach 30,000 in S@H.

I have now set E@H to "Allow New Work" and I am not getting any. Since I been running S@H I would think BOINC would run E@H to make up for the time I been running S@H. It's been set to "Allow Work" for a week and still nothing.


Pooh Bear 27
Pooh Bear 27
Joined: 20 Mar 05
Posts: 1376
Credit: 20312671
RAC: 0

RE: I have now set E@H to

Message 24941 in response to message 24940

Quote:
I have now set E@H to "Allow New Work" and I am not getting any. Since I been running S@H I would think BOINC would run E@H to make up for the time I been running S@H. It's been set to "Allow Work" for a week and still nothing.

Post the last 20-30 messages, let us see what it's trying to tell you.

Ricky@SETI.USA
Ricky@SETI.USA
Joined: 9 Sep 05
Posts: 85
Credit: 1519191
RAC: 0

RE: Post the last 20-30

Message 24942 in response to message 24941

Quote:

Post the last 20-30 messages, let us see what it's trying to tell you.

OK here you are:

2/10/2006 09:32:34||Starting BOINC client version 5.3.11.tx32 for windows_intelx86
2/10/2006 09:32:34||libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
2/10/2006 09:32:34||Data directory: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC
2/10/2006 09:32:34|SETI@home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
2/10/2006 09:32:34||Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.50GHz
2/10/2006 09:32:34||Memory: 759.37 MB physical, 1.81 GB virtual
2/10/2006 09:32:34||Disk: 24.35 GB total, 13.66 GB free
2/10/2006 09:32:34|einstein@home|Computer ID: 407329; location: work; project prefs: default
2/10/2006 09:32:34|seti@home|Computer ID: 1316786; location: work; project prefs: work
2/10/2006 09:32:34||General prefs: from einstein@home (last modified 2006-02-10 06:55:50)
2/10/2006 09:32:34||General prefs: using separate prefs for work
2/10/2006 09:32:34||Remote control not allowed
2/10/2006 09:32:34||Listening on port 31416
2/10/2006 09:32:34||truXoft add-on: return_results_immediately
2/10/2006 09:32:34||truXoft add-on: calibrate_credit = all
2/10/2006 09:32:34|seti@home|Resuming computation for result 09ja04aa.15936.7697.492326.1.190_2 using setiathome version 418
2/10/2006 09:32:34|seti@home|Started upload of 02dc04aa.16687.22640.140892.1.197_3_0
2/10/2006 09:32:34|seti@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
2/10/2006 09:32:34|seti@home|Reason: To fetch work
2/10/2006 09:32:34|seti@home|Requesting 44348 seconds of new work
2/10/2006 09:32:34|seti@home|CC calibration: 11.69 >> 42.44 (time: 4407s >> 6349s / Gfpops: 1.35 >> 8.32)
2/10/2006 09:32:41|seti@home|Finished upload of 02dc04aa.16687.22640.140892.1.197_3_0
2/10/2006 09:32:41|seti@home|Throughput 2769 bytes/sec
2/10/2006 09:32:50|seti@home|Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
2/10/2006 09:32:52|seti@home|Started download of 12dc03ab.10273.20113.148584.1.159
2/10/2006 09:32:52|seti@home|Started download of 09ja04aa.15936.16098.798576.1.246


Pooh Bear 27
Pooh Bear 27
Joined: 20 Mar 05
Posts: 1376
Credit: 20312671
RAC: 0

My guess is that Einstein

My guess is that Einstein does not support the optimized BOINC application.

Jord
Joined: 26 Jan 05
Posts: 2952
Credit: 5893653
RAC: 1

RE: In my case I did have

Message 24944 in response to message 24940

Quote:

In my case I did have my E@H set to "No New Work" in order to reach 30,000 in S@H.

I have now set E@H to "Allow New Work" and I am not getting any. Since I been running S@H I would think BOINC would run E@H to make up for the time I been running S@H. It's been set to "Allow Work" for a week and still nothing.


Is the button actually showing Allow new work? For if it is, you have set the project to not request new work. The button doesn't show what state it is in, it gives the option to go to the next state. So for EAH to get new work, the button should read No new work.

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.