"pentium dual core" is the core 1 duo equivilent of a celeron. They're c1d's that only have one of the two 1mb cache banks active, just like the original was a p2 with a cache that was disabled because it failed QC.
Core (1) is and older architecture than Core 2, and it was used only for mobile and server CPUs. The newest Pentium and Celeron CPUs are based on Core 2. The number of CPU cores are signed by Solo, Duo and Quad.
Akos: The desktop pentium dual core (e2140, e2160) processors are core2 (allendale) based, the laptop ones (T2060, T2080, T2130) are still core1 (Yonah) designs.
Akos: The desktop pentium dual core (e2140, e2160) processors are core2 (allendale) based, the laptop ones (T2060, T2080, T2130) are still core1 (Yonah) designs.
Oh, yes. You are right. I didn't know the "Pentium Dual-Core Mobile" CPUs.
Akos: The desktop pentium dual core (e2140, e2160) processors are core2 (allendale) based, the laptop ones (T2060, T2080, T2130) are still core1 (Yonah) designs.
Oh, yes. You are right. I didn't know the "Pentium Dual-Core Mobile" CPUs.
I have one.
A nice little Gateway laptop with a T2300 in it and 2 GB of RAM. Runs Vista smoothly and Ubuntu even nicer :)
When I was first looking, I thought they had put a Pentium D into a laptop. I thought Intel had gone nuts until I realized they were Core based. Talk about confusing.
Only ran a handful of E@H on it. Been doing CPDN Beta, Cosmo and APS (along with a smattering of other alpha/beta stuff) lately.
The rumors about "the return of the Pentium" had been going a long time before the release of the Pentium E for desktops, so no big surprise there. What i find strange is that Intel choose to base the mobile Pentiums on Core Duo instead of Core 2 (desktop Pentiums are Core 2), thats pretty old fashioned by now and barely outperforms Turion X2, but the simple fact that it CAN outperform Turion on a performance per watt basis seems to be good enough for Intel, this is obviously a case of holding back on new tech because of weak competition from AMD.
The rumors about "the return of the Pentium" had been going a long time before the release of the Pentium E for desktops, so no big surprise there. What i find strange is that Intel choose to base the mobile Pentiums on Core Duo instead of Core 2 (desktop Pentiums are Core 2), thats pretty old fashioned by now and barely outperforms Turion X2, but the simple fact that it CAN outperform Turion on a performance per watt basis seems to be good enough for Intel, this is obviously a case of holding back on new tech because of weak competition from AMD.
I don't think they can be accused of holding back something, after all you can get mobile Core 2 Duo stuff. What they want is to offer the full range, from top-notch-outperforms-everything-else to as-cheap-as-it-possibly-can-get. The low end stuff usually gets an extra brand name like "Celeron", Duron, Semperon, or now "Pentium" to set it apart from the more expensive stuff just to protect the value of the main brand.
On desktop even the Celerons are now Core 2, so i still say they are holding back. 65nm Pentium D came after Core Duo and is already gone. AMD is more competitive on desktop so Intel is moving much faster there.
IMO, Intel should have discontinued the whole Core Duo lineup and replaced them with 1MB cache Core 2s without VT. Whats the point of keeping Core Duo and even introduce new CPUs based on it when Core 2 has been out for more than a year already. AMD is still selling Turions on their 64bit "advantage", so i cant see why Core Duo is a good idea to fill up some holes in the low end dual core segment. There are still people out there who seriously believe that 64bit means twice as high performance (same group of ppl who thinks Kaaza is a tool for professional hackers), Intel dont want to sell to stupid people maybe? =) Like the boss of Lucas in CTRL+ALT+DEL, lol.
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Core (1) is and older architecture than Core 2, and it was used only for mobile and server CPUs. The newest Pentium and Celeron CPUs are based on Core 2. The number of CPU cores are signed by Solo, Duo and Quad.
Pentium Dual Core -> Core 2 Duo
Celeron 400 Sequence -> Core 2 Solo
Akos: The desktop pentium
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Akos: The desktop pentium dual core (e2140, e2160) processors are core2 (allendale) based, the laptop ones (T2060, T2080, T2130) are still core1 (Yonah) designs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Pentium_Dual-Core
RE: Akos: The desktop
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Oh, yes. You are right. I didn't know the "Pentium Dual-Core Mobile" CPUs.
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And I didn't realize the pentium dual core name was being used on any desktop chips at all.
RE: And I didn't realize
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Actually, they've just re-introduced the "Pentium" name as some sort of marketing gimmick.
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I have one.
A nice little Gateway laptop with a T2300 in it and 2 GB of RAM. Runs Vista smoothly and Ubuntu even nicer :)
When I was first looking, I thought they had put a Pentium D into a laptop. I thought Intel had gone nuts until I realized they were Core based. Talk about confusing.
Only ran a handful of E@H on it. Been doing CPDN Beta, Cosmo and APS (along with a smattering of other alpha/beta stuff) lately.
Kathryn :o)
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This bit of stupid confusing
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This bit of stupid confusing wasn't intels idea, their OEMs were the ones begging to bring back the pentium name. *rolls eyes*
The rumors about "the return
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The rumors about "the return of the Pentium" had been going a long time before the release of the Pentium E for desktops, so no big surprise there. What i find strange is that Intel choose to base the mobile Pentiums on Core Duo instead of Core 2 (desktop Pentiums are Core 2), thats pretty old fashioned by now and barely outperforms Turion X2, but the simple fact that it CAN outperform Turion on a performance per watt basis seems to be good enough for Intel, this is obviously a case of holding back on new tech because of weak competition from AMD.
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RE: The rumors about "the
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I don't think they can be accused of holding back something, after all you can get mobile Core 2 Duo stuff. What they want is to offer the full range, from top-notch-outperforms-everything-else to as-cheap-as-it-possibly-can-get. The low end stuff usually gets an extra brand name like "Celeron", Duron, Semperon, or now "Pentium" to set it apart from the more expensive stuff just to protect the value of the main brand.
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On desktop even the Celerons
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On desktop even the Celerons are now Core 2, so i still say they are holding back. 65nm Pentium D came after Core Duo and is already gone. AMD is more competitive on desktop so Intel is moving much faster there.
IMO, Intel should have discontinued the whole Core Duo lineup and replaced them with 1MB cache Core 2s without VT. Whats the point of keeping Core Duo and even introduce new CPUs based on it when Core 2 has been out for more than a year already. AMD is still selling Turions on their 64bit "advantage", so i cant see why Core Duo is a good idea to fill up some holes in the low end dual core segment. There are still people out there who seriously believe that 64bit means twice as high performance (same group of ppl who thinks Kaaza is a tool for professional hackers), Intel dont want to sell to stupid people maybe? =) Like the boss of Lucas in CTRL+ALT+DEL, lol.
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