Technological Advances on Mobile Devices / Reviews

Patrick
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In 2014 2015 cuda will come on Mobile Devices
It´s the Tegra 5(Logan) which makes that possible
watch this video from the gpu conference 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kIQWWJs_po

Alex
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Technological Advances on Mobile Devices / Reviews

I really do not want to reduce anyones enthusiasm, but I'm still crunching on mobile devices.
I have installed native boinc on my Nexus and also on my phone and I am crunching BRP wu's for Albert and also for pogs (has a RAC of 880 there).
http://albert.phys.uwm.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6947
http://ec2-23-23-126-96.compute-1.amazonaws.com/pogs/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6061

Patrick
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Yes i know that it´s

Yes i know that it´s actually possible but with cuda support they will run much much faster.
I´m sorry if i´ve choosed the wrong words and you misunderstood me.
I wanted to point out the cuda support which is actually not integrated.
and after that is done there will come 64bit support which is interesting i think.
Especially for SIMD Instuctions which are an important development.
And that accelerates the computation too.
Many memory reads and writes are done with SIMD...

I think now it´s understandable what i wanted to tell.

Patrick
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In other words I´m

In other words
I´m interested in technological advances and improvements and i wanted to share
this interests with people who are interested in that too here on Eistein.
We all are living in a new digital age i would say.
I´m just sitting here in the cafe at Einstein@home to talk about this and that :)

mikey
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RE: In other words I´m

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In other words
I´m interested in technological advances and improvements and i wanted to share
this interests with people who are interested in that too here on Eistein.
We all are living in a new digital age i would say.
I´m just sitting here in the cafe at Einstein@home to talk about this and that :)

I think if you get the Boinc Developers to jump on board, as they have with the crunching on mobile devices now, it will soon spread to alot fo different projects. Here is a link to the Developer Forum for Boinc in general and you can see there is a whole thread dedicated to Boinc for Android devices.
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_forum.php?id=2

It is a read only thread but the man in charge of Boinc, the overall main programmer is Dr David Anderson of Seti, he designed, built and got the first grant for Boinc way back when and is STILL the main guy in its development. In the first log entry this is there: "Report any problems you get with it to the Alpha email list. This list needs registration. When sending logs or other attachments, make sure to CC David, Rom, or Charlie separately, since the email list will drop attachments!" Click on it and you can register to send your info and ask questions. BE WARNED THOUGH, Boinc is HIS BABY and he doesn't take negativity towards it too well, as is expected of any 'parent'! Here is where you can register:
http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_alpha

I have personally found Rom Walton to be extremely helpful and receptive but even he is NOT 'the man' when it comes to the final decisions on everything, Dr Anderson is. Go slow, be careful and be aware that he may not even answer you. On the other hand he may start a lifelong dialog with you!

Alex
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RE: In other words I´m

Quote:

In other words
I´m interested in technological advances and improvements and i wanted to share
this interests with people who are interested in that too here on Eistein.
We all are living in a new digital age i would say.
I´m just sitting here in the cafe at Einstein@home to talk about this and that :)

Hi, nice to meet you here!

Curiosity was the reason for my first gpu, triggered by the Milkyway project. I have now 4 PC's with gpu's, one APU (just to know how good that works), one notebook with a built-in GTX460M (runtime on battry < 25min ) and joined some weeks ago the 'Android Community'.

I love to be there where new ideas develop to reality, finding alternatives for 'what we have done always and will do forever' and if it is necessary to go unusual ways, let's start.

Cheers,

Alexander

Patrick
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I am no Software developer or

I am no Software developer or Hardware architect.
The only thing what i wanted to say is that it is very great what technological advances in the next few years will happen and i think that opens up new opportunities for Science in all ways.
Smartphones won´t be Phones only in the Future they will be good small computers with which you can do anything what you want to do.
Actually you can put them to your monitor with cable or wireless that´s a very cool feature.
Thank you for that links Mikey i wann read that next time.

Patrick
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Your Nexus runs really good

Your Nexus runs really good Alex around 6 times faster with the neon 1.03 app instead of the 1.02.
What i can see is that it runs at 1300 Mhz.
Is this correct?
If yes is it a downclocked nexus 4 or is it a previous model?
No comperative model to my old galaxy mini which is actually running at 19% after
16.5 hours but i´m interested in that :).
If someone is brave enough to test the new galaxy s4 with the Exynos 5 processor then you can post the runtimes here with pleasure.
If i am right informed there are 2 versions of processor available depending of the region where you can buy it.
The quadcore with 1900Mhz and the eightcore with 1600Mhz.

Alex
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RE: Your Nexus runs really

Quote:
Your Nexus runs really good Alex around 6 times faster with the neon 1.03 app instead of the 1.02.
What i can see is that it runs at 1300 Mhz.
Is this correct?
If yes is it a downclocked nexus 4 or is it a previous model?
No comperative model to my old galaxy mini which is actually running at 19% after
16.5 hours but i´m interested in that :).
If someone is brave enough to test the new galaxy s4 with the Exynos 5 processor then you can post the runtimes here with pleasure.
If i am right informed there are 2 versions of processor available depending of the region where you can buy it.
The quadcore with 1900Mhz and the eightcore with 1600Mhz.

Yes, I'm happy with it.
Overclocked? No, all out of the box. Arm devices do not have a temp sensor (as far as I know) and cannot be replaced like an i3 or so. If I have a chance to repair it I would take the risk but not this way.
I've got the handy from a friend, unused and unloved, he is a iPhone fan and wanred to get rid of it; got it for 200€.
I found a nice device, pretty like the RaspberriPi, but equipped with an ARMv9 quadcore @ 1.7GHz with NEON. Android and linux available for that, 89$ + shipping&handling. I hope I will have some time for that in the later summer, could be a very interesting device and cheap enough to experiment with it.

Patrick
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That sound really good. On

That sound really good.
On your link to your phone here http://albert.phys.uwm.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6947
the device is shown with 1300Mhz but on wikipedia it is shown with 1500Mhz on the right under the Foto you can read that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_4

My thaught was, that you eventually have an app installed which reduces the clockspeed.
But otherwise the phones can put up and down there clockrate self depending on what they have to do and so it´s recorded eventually with this 1300Mhz.
I don´t know (just thaught you clocked it down because of high temperatures).


Alex
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RE: That sound really

Quote:

That sound really good.
On your link to your phone here http://albert.phys.uwm.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6947
the device is shown with 1300Mhz but on wikipedia it is shown with 1500Mhz on the right under the Foto you can read that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_4

My thaught was, that you eventually have an app installed which reduces the clockspeed.
But otherwise the phones can put up and down there clockrate self depending on what they have to do and so it´s recorded eventually with this 1300Mhz.
I don´t know (just thaught you clocked it down because of high temperatures).


OK, I'm a absolute newbie in the android world. My first tablet died after 2 weeks and was 15 weeks out for repair. After that I recogized that this device is not supported by google play. It lasted more than 6 months before I bought the Nexus 2 months ago and 4 weeks later the handy.
Really, I have no idea how to control, monitor and manipulate these devices like I do it in the windows world.
I hope I can go deeper into it later, maybe with a little help from outside.

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