Study advice for budding scientists?

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I teach expelled youngsters by day, and lead a volunteer-run youth group aimed at steering young folks away from drifting into trouble with our squaddies (police). Not bad kids, just struggling to find work.

With gravity waves hitting the news, amongst other excitements, discovered we have some could-be scientists amongst them :-)

Any recommended websites, books, magazines or knowledge of foundation/entry courses/routes into further study would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Study advice for budding scientists?

There is a lot of interesting articles and links posted in the Science Forum The distant learning courses from Jodrell Bank, here is a bit dated but covers a lot about pulsars.

Perhaps you might find a local astronomy club, as seeing is believing.

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RE: I teach expelled

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I teach expelled youngsters by day, and lead a volunteer-run youth group aimed at steering young folks away from drifting into trouble with our squaddies (police). Not bad kids, just struggling to find work.

With gravity waves hitting the news, amongst other excitements, discovered we have some could-be scientists amongst them :-)

Any recommended websites, books, magazines or knowledge of foundation/entry courses/routes into further study would be appreciated.

Thanks.


In fact you are actually quite likely to find some could-be scientists amongst them and probably the higher performers at that. The Nobel Prize lists are replete with non-conformists who were thought to be difficult or unusual by their contemporaries. In my experience DownUnda most of the notable medical researchers were considered as pains in the **** when young ( and still are ). Dare to be different etc ... but of course rebellion is not enough. The trick is to focus and generate discipline from within. Anyway that wasn't your question. :-)

Basically they've got to do maths and be real solid with that. All scientists have to be quite comfortable with maths at some relevant level. Given that it could be a challenge to confine your youths to formal teaching methods ( ahem ) then subvert that problem by puzzles etc eg. Sudoko ( I always have to google how to spell that ).

Speaking of Google the first hit for 'learn maths online' gives a multi-level presentation. Something like that would be great, but don't structure it. Just throw it at them and let them find something in there which they are comfortable with - the exact level doesn't matter - and see if they can choose what to do from then.

Cheers, Mike.

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RE: There is a lot of

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There is a lot of interesting articles and links posted in the Science Forum


Been having a read through last couple of weeks, looking for ones I feel competent in discussing with bright young minds. Mon - that's a short list :-))) but an excellent resource, and I'm getting there. Do keep being reminded of one of our local sayings though - bucket with hole in the bottom, got no business at riverside. ;-)

We organised a meet and greet with a local college science faculty end of next month. Would like the kids to shine. Not an easy thing to do, when you been labelled.

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The distant learning courses from Jodrell Bank, here is a bit dated but covers a lot about pulsars.

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Perhaps you might find a local astronomy club, as seeing is believing.

Will do some research into both of those ideas, brother. Thanks. We situated near Runaway Bay and not too much of a trek get's us to some nice spots for dark skies. Used to be better. Saw nothing of it from London. Heh heh. The things you miss when you away from home, eh :-)

Anyway, cheers, bro. Appreciated.

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Good advice, Sir. Thank you. :-) Language gets ripe when maths gets a mention :-))) just aiming at dismantling the fear for now. Good tips there for that. Cheers.

Will check out that link when I finish here.

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RE: With gravity waves

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With gravity waves hitting the news, amongst other excitements, discovered we have some could-be scientists amongst them :-)
Any recommended websites, books, magazines or knowledge of foundation/entry courses/routes into further study would be appreciated.

Hi, Isihisi.
SETI@home team built recently a web site devoted to the conditions for life to exist in our universe.
The aim is to make things accessible even to kids and, at my point of view, they reached the target.
I don't know if it can help you, but you could have a look at it.
(I can't give you the link, SETI being closed for maintenance at the moment)

Cheers
JF

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With gravity waves hitting the news, amongst other excitements, discovered we have some could-be scientists amongst them :-)
Any recommended websites, books, magazines or knowledge of foundation/entry courses/routes into further study would be appreciated.

Hi, Isihisi.
SETI@home team built recently a web site devoted to the conditions for life to exist in our universe.
I don't know if it can help you, but you could have a look at it.
(I can't give you the link, SETI being closed for maintenance at the moment)

Cheers
JF


Cheers, bro. :-) Link here: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/astrobio_01_intro for those interested.

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The aim is to make things accessible even to kids and, at my point of view, they reached the target.


+1000

17 (and rising) of those I'm working with, for definite, mon. :-) One of my "tagged" lads is using what he's picking up from the site, to build models of "evolved" alien species. Not sure he follows anything like the "scientific method" all the time, though heh heh, but he getting others interested, even if to point that out to him. :-)

My thanks to those who have given their time to post here. All suggestions have found fertile soil. Respect! :-)

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Hi Isihisi. Happy if we all

Hi Isihisi.
Happy if we all could be of some help.
Please, make us aware of the following of the story.

Courage and good luck :=)
JF

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Hi Isihisi. Where are you

Hi Isihisi.

Where are you now with your kids, after your last post (March 2016) ?

Are the things going well for them ? Do they progress in understanding life, and the confitions for life existing, even if they do not necessarily use the "scientific methods" ?

Personal note : most of the knowledge of the human (or animal) beings doesn't come from scientific approaches !

As a scientist, I should not say this, but it is reality...

Cheers

JF

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Yep, been a spell since I was

Yep, been a spell since I was here. Not much computing time helping the UK's homeless pull through winter. Left em to it early this year tho. One of our young'uns had his visa application turned down so got left behind. Went and found himself some trouble last week :-( Now looking at some months lost to the system if'n I can't persuade a judge otherwise. Mon! It maddening! This little bro looking all set for a scholarship to Uni come September. First visit with him set for this afternoon. Just gotta try not wring his neck ;-)

 

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I am sorry to hear that. Best

I am sorry to hear that. Best wishes for a positive outcome, good sir. Nice to find you're still active here. :-)

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I am following an online

I am following an online course on Gravitation by the Diderot University in Paris through the Learn project. Two years ago I followed a course on the Higgs field given by the University  of Edinburgh and I had some problems in understanding the English spoken by Scotsmen in the videos which accompany the course. Now in Gravitation the French speak good English and there is also an American Nobel prize winner. prof. Smollet who speaks the kind of English I understand better.

Tullio

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