Question about slowness of Eeinstein processing

edtx
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I am running Einstein on a 900mhz Amd Athlon useing Windows 2000 on my second PC.

It is running with the screen saver active, but I really don't think that is the problem. I have downloaded the addon and changed the cpu share to 100, 200, and 300 at various times which seems to make no difference. I have even shut down the old seti@home which was also running on this machine and Einstein still only uses 14-16% of resources avaible according to Task Manager. The only thing running on this PC at present is Einstein and Task Manager is showing Einstein useage of available resources to be 16% with 84% free. Anyone having any suggestions would be appreciated as to how to speed up Einstein.

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Question about slowness of Eeinstein processing

A few suggestions...

1. Turn off the screen saver and see if anything changes.
2. What particular "Addon" are you talking about?
3. If E@H is your only Boinc project then the resource share setting (100, 200, etc) is totally irrelevant. 100 of 100 or 200 of 200, etc are all exactly 100%.
4. Don't run both Boinc and classic seti at the same time. Boinc has such a low priority that it will get no significant share. (Or is it the other way around??)
5. Are you sure that task manager is showing the System idle process at 84%? What % figure is showing for the Einstein_* process? Should be about 99%.

Cheers,
Gary.

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edtx, I had this problem

edtx,

I had this problem too. The reason that I got suspicious that something was wrong was that the Einstein visualization (not the screen saver but the graphic that can be activated) was really jerky. It prolly updated frames at 20% of the normal rate and the orange target barely moved. Sure enough, Task Manager said it was operating at about 20% with 80% idle.

How did I fix this? I just shut down BOINC and restarted it. It was that easy. I hope it is for you too. It has never happened to me again since.

And Gary is right that you don't want two apps competing for idle time but are supposed to independently use 100% of available idle time. SETI classic is almost dead. Join SETI BOINC!

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I shut down Boinc and then

I shut down Boinc and then restarted, Taksmanager showed resources used at 100% for about 30 seconds and then einstein drop back to only using 16% percent of system resources where it was and has been at.

I am running Seti@boinc on my other pc, but I wanted to run one boinc application on my 900mhz slower pc and the old seti@home does not make any difference. If only einstein is running, it uses up about 16% of rescources with 84% free if Einstein and Seti@home are running, they only use about 40% of resources with 60% free according to task manager, also where it says computer time used on einstein, for every "10 real time minutes" that go by, the graph is only showing 1 minute of computer time used. whats up with that

I am finishing up one last work unit with seti@home and then it will be gone.

How do I turn off the Einstein screen saver?

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On my other pc, seti@boinc is

On my other pc, seti@boinc is running and takmanager shows it using 90% or better of system resources. This problem seems to have to with einstein and my second pc that it is running on.

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With only einstein running on

With only einstein running on the one pc, task manager is showing the system idle process at 84% and einstein at 14-16%. I am going to miss the deadline at this rate! in five days this thing has only completed 40% of the einstein work unit.

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> > How do I turn off the

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> How do I turn off the Einstein screen saver?

Choose a different screen saver instead?

I too am interested in the "Addon" that you said you downloaded. If you are running BOINC 4.25, I don't see the need for anything else. Does that version require an extra download for a screensaver?

Oh, and I just cut and pasted the stuff below from the BOINC download page for the Windows 4.25 core client. Does this help...?

The BOINC screensaver conflicts with Microsoft Intellitype software.
Applications that were built before October 2004 do not display screensaver graphics with the Service or Shared installation, or the Single-user installation with the password protect screensaver option on NT based machines.
If BOINC runs at the same time as Windows XP 3D screensavers, the system becomes sluggish and unresponsive.
Dial-up users should choose the single-user installation.
Graphics sometimes do not work with ATI Graphics card. If you have this problem, please visit the SETI@home Q&A area, fill in the requested information, and click on the "I also have this question" button.
If you experience any of these problems, we recommend using BOINC version 4.19.

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The addon is I believe

The addon is I believe tmst112 it is on the Boinc site and with it you are supposed to be able to allocate shares of system resources. It doesn't matter because I removed that three days ago. I am running Boinc version 4.19 because of the problems the later versions have with ATI video cards, both of my pc's are running with ATI video cards.

One pc is running seti@boinc and using 90% or better on the resources.
The second pc is running einstein@boinc and will only use 16% of available resources and is very slow, not just the pc, but the einstein processing. I will make the screen saver to none and see what happens.

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I am now running with no

I am now running with no screen saver and I have rebooted. Einstein is still running at 16%.

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> I am now running with no

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> I am now running with no screen saver and I have rebooted. Einstein is still
> running at 16%.

Malware hiding itself and consuming a lot of your cpu???? Is the system idle process showing as using the remaining 84%? You haven't somehow managed to elevate the priority of the system idle process??? Bit of a puzzle really!!!

The above comments are really grasping at straws....

Cheers,
Gary.

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> I am now running with no

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> I am now running with no screen saver and I have rebooted. Einstein is still
> running at 16%.
>
>Added to above message. The Addon which I had added to my pc a few days ago had supposedly been removed from my hard drive, unfortunately I found it had left a program call threadmanager.exe on my hard derive which could not be removed. When I checked in Taskmanger this threadmanager.exe was listed. I copied the msconfig.exe program from Windows XP over to the windows directory on my windows 2000 pc and then ran it. For some unkown reason Microsoft left out msconfig.exe in windows 2000.

Under msconfig in windows 2000 I found threadmanager.exe listed under services, I unchecked it and clicked apply, Msconfig wanted to reboot after this and so I did.
Einstein has been running for abut 15 minutes now at 100%. Looks good. I am going to restart the einstein screen saver as I don't think that had anything to do with it.

The threadmanager.exe program no longer shows up under the Taskmanager, alright!

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