I don't find it very intelligent to set personal prefs in the internet and not in the manager itself. I think of prefs like maximum disk space or something like that.
It's designed to be friendlier to those running large farms. They can make a single adjustment, and it will be fed to all their machines.
But yes, it would be nice to have local control. Since there is so much communication with the various web pages anyway, I don't see why you couldn't make a change locally, that in turn is updated on your preference page on the web, which is then propogated through your farm.
It's designed to be friendlier to those running large farms. They can make a single adjustment, and it will be fed to all their machines.
but I agree with Anna-Thea: sometimes that is just what you *don't* want.
Why should I be forced to allocate the same disk space on one machine with a 1GB hard disk and on another with a 200GB disk?
Why should I set the same resource split between climateprediction and E@H on a 300MHz Pentium II and on a 3+GHz machine with dual cores?
Sure it is nice to have a default set on the web, but only useful if you have many machines that are all pretty similar. If we are going to have web-based settings, in my view we should at least be able to add our own machine types to the prefs.
For the moment, you can set up to three different profiles by pretending one set of machines is at home, one at work, and one at school. But this would spoint the stats if anyone ever started to count how many of each kind of contributor there is.
My suggestion: allow users to set their own different flavours of their prefs. Where it lets you add a separate set of preferences for school, home, etc, it could also let you add a new flavour of preferences to the list. Users could have as many different sets of prefs as they wanted, and call them names that were relevant to their own needs.
All it would need (I think) would be a little more code in the page that allows prefs to be viewed/edited. As well as add separate prefs for home/etc, there would be another option, add preferences for other purposes.
The client runs OK with a non-standard machine type held locally (tested on 4.19 by manual edit of XML files).
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But yes, it would be nice to have local control. Since there is so much communication with the various web pages anyway, I don't see why you couldn't make a change locally, that in turn is updated on your preference page on the web, which is then propogated through your farm.
and I agree with this as well, but in practice this would be a bigger change to implement so I guess it will not come soon.
A simple way to satisfy anyone could be to keep the web settings, use them as a default configuration for our PC's, and allow to override some on a local PC.
This way it would be easy to use, allow large farms working and simple users to have flexibility.
I don't find it very intelligent to set personal prefs in the internet and not in the manager itself. I think of prefs like maximum disk space or something like that.
Use the home, work, and school preferences. This will give you three different levels of preferences. Then set your machines according to class or use. This will at least give you three different settings. It is kind of a pain to make sure you have them set up the way you want them.
Mine are
Home - unlimited.
School - restrictive for disk space.
Work - restrictive for when running and memory/cpu usage.
There are also settings for project preferences for home, school, and work but I currently don't use those.
I agree with most of the control requests and I would like to add one more; I like to control access of communication to and from, with an auto setting to close communications with a firewall. But this Bonic Manager wants to communicate too often which seems to delay processing.
So I guess, I would like to have an option to dictate the frequency of this communication via an option in Boinc Manager.
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It's designed to be friendlier to those running large farms. They can make a single adjustment, and it will be fed to all their machines.
But yes, it would be nice to have local control. Since there is so much communication with the various web pages anyway, I don't see why you couldn't make a change locally, that in turn is updated on your preference page on the web, which is then propogated through your farm.
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but I agree with Anna-Thea: sometimes that is just what you *don't* want.
Why should I be forced to allocate the same disk space on one machine with a 1GB hard disk and on another with a 200GB disk?
Why should I set the same resource split between climateprediction and E@H on a 300MHz Pentium II and on a 3+GHz machine with dual cores?
Sure it is nice to have a default set on the web, but only useful if you have many machines that are all pretty similar. If we are going to have web-based settings, in my view we should at least be able to add our own machine types to the prefs.
For the moment, you can set up to three different profiles by pretending one set of machines is at home, one at work, and one at school. But this would spoint the stats if anyone ever started to count how many of each kind of contributor there is.
My suggestion: allow users to set their own different flavours of their prefs. Where it lets you add a separate set of preferences for school, home, etc, it could also let you add a new flavour of preferences to the list. Users could have as many different sets of prefs as they wanted, and call them names that were relevant to their own needs.
All it would need (I think) would be a little more code in the page that allows prefs to be viewed/edited. As well as add separate prefs for home/etc, there would be another option, add preferences for other purposes.
The client runs OK with a non-standard machine type held locally (tested on 4.19 by manual edit of XML files).
and I agree with this as well, but in practice this would be a bigger change to implement so I guess it will not come soon.
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A simple way to satisfy
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A simple way to satisfy anyone could be to keep the web settings, use them as a default configuration for our PC's, and allow to override some on a local PC.
This way it would be easy to use, allow large farms working and simple users to have flexibility.
RE: I don't find it very
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Use the home, work, and school preferences. This will give you three different levels of preferences. Then set your machines according to class or use. This will at least give you three different settings. It is kind of a pain to make sure you have them set up the way you want them.
Mine are
Home - unlimited.
School - restrictive for disk space.
Work - restrictive for when running and memory/cpu usage.
There are also settings for project preferences for home, school, and work but I currently don't use those.
I agree with most of the
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I agree with most of the control requests and I would like to add one more; I like to control access of communication to and from, with an auto setting to close communications with a firewall. But this Bonic Manager wants to communicate too often which seems to delay processing.
So I guess, I would like to have an option to dictate the frequency of this communication via an option in Boinc Manager.
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