goverment funding ?

Manney
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why dose't einstei@home ask for goverment funding or ask other compies like intel, amd, dell, etc to get sponsed. so u can get like 100 or 1000s time the performace so you can have the s5 run done in just few days. also by having a supercomputer work can be done more effectly rather than sending it across the internet for it to done then sent back.

Michael Karlinsky
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goverment funding ?

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why dose't einstei@home ask for goverment funding or ask other compies like intel, amd, dell, etc to get sponsed. so u can get like 100 or 1000s time the performace so you can have the s5 run done in just few days. also by having a supercomputer work can be done more effectly rather than sending it across the internet for it to done then sent back.

At the bottom of every page it says:

"This material is based upon work supported by the National Science Foundation (NSF) under Grant NSF-0200852 and by the Max Planck Gesellschaft (MPG). Any opinions, findings, and conclusions or recommendations expressed in this material are those of the investigators and do not necessarily reflect the views of the NSF or the MPG."

Looks like government funding to me.

Michael

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RE: RE: why dose't

Message 58328 in response to message 58327

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why dose't einstei@home ask for goverment funding or ask other compies like intel, amd, dell, etc to get sponsed. so u can get like 100 or 1000s time the performace so you can have the s5 run done in just few days. also by having a supercomputer work can be done more effectly rather than sending it across the internet for it to done then sent back.

At the bottom of every page it says:

"This material is based upon work supported by the National Science Foundation (NSF) under Grant NSF-0200852 and by the Max Planck Gesellschaft (MPG). Any opinions, findings, and conclusions or recommendations expressed in this material are those of the investigators and do not necessarily reflect the views of the NSF or the MPG."

Looks like government funding to me.

Michael

why do they need our help if they got goverment funding tell the govement to get them a supercomputer that do that in a few days.

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RE: ... why do they need

Message 58329 in response to message 58328

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why do they need our help if they got goverment funding tell the govement to get them a supercomputer that do that in a few days.

manney, the whole point of BOINC is, that there is a supercomputer (although a distributed one) sitting on our desks - idle. Therefore, we crunchers agree to provide it for free to projects we individually judge as worth supporting, and they can spend the government money on other lab equipment, or on paying few more scientists. Plus, you and I and others who provide CPU time, are participating in science..., I know, it's just a feeling and you can't buy anything for it... but it's up to you!

Cheers,
KPX

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It should also be remembered

It should also be remembered that a supercomputer, by definition, is limited in its performance and how much it can do. The internet, by contrast, is virtually unlimited. If only, say, 1% of computers online were to sign up for BOINC, the result would be your supercomputer hundreds of times over and instantly to boot! BOINC could outclass any supercomputer by far, and with no cost to the projects

I have in the past wondered if BOINC could be openly advocated by either private industry or the government in some way without offending those who might be shy of government supported stuff. There are, after all, many who despise anything government, so open government advocacy would be out of the question, in my view. But others could easily take up the slack on this issue, and really give BOINC based projects a real boost. I think it could be done, but how to get the BOINC message out there in a big way is up for grabs. I think someone from NSF or some other outfit (public or private) should really brainstorm the issue and see what can be done. BOINC could do so much more, and I know there are plenty of others willing to give it a try if they knew it was there.


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Manney - if you look at the

Manney - if you look at the top 5 supercomputers in the world (here) you'll see that the top (theoretical) peak speed is 367000 Gigaflops. According to BoincStats, BOINC combined has an average speed of well over 467000 Gigaflops. Plus the top supercomputers are all extremely specialised, and can't run general applications or different projects.

Einstein's current performance would place it at number 4 in measured speed, and number 6 in terms of theoretical peak performance. All for the relatively low cost in staff and hardware, plus a heck of a lot of volunteer work.

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