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GWGeorge007 wrote: When you

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When you get the 2nd one up and running, how about a picture ( or three ) of what the students put together?

Here are some pictures (link). They are the same hardware, but we reversed the case/MB on one of them based on where it will be placed in the classroom. It does not seem to have any impact on the thermals. One is up and running (when I am in the classroom) and the other we are still messing with to see if we can get Clear Linux working with Nvidia drivers (not looking good). It is really impressive how much faster Clear Linux is but it is not really user-friendly (comparison- WCG Mapping CM tasks take ~3 hours each on Mint and ~2 hours each on Clear). 

Either way, the systems look great- they are all about function, power, airflow. The students are proud of their work and happy to see them starting to complete work units!

 

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Boca Raton Community HS

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GWGeorge007 wrote:

When you get the 2nd one up and running, how about a picture ( or three ) of what the students put together?

Here are some pictures (link). They are the same hardware, but we reversed the case/MB on one of them based on where it will be placed in the classroom. It does not seem to have any impact on the thermals. One is up and running (when I am in the classroom) and the other we are still messing with to see if we can get Clear Linux working with Nvidia drivers (not looking good). It is really impressive how much faster Clear Linux is but it is not really user-friendly (comparison- WCG Mapping CM tasks take ~3 hours each on Mint and ~2 hours each on Clear). 

Either way, the systems look great- they are all about function, power, airflow. The students are proud of their work and happy to see them starting to complete work units!

Very nice!  I can see why you have selected 'beQuiet!', and I'm glad the air cooler Dark Rock 4 Pro TR Edition is working out for you.  It would be great if you could also get the Linux Clear to work with BOINC.  At a 50% decrease in time, who wouldn't want to see you make it work?

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+1

+1

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IBM's Clear Linux uses all of

IBM's Clear Linux uses all of the most current compiler optimizations.  Every little tweak to drivers and compilers that are in the upstream branches are pulled into Clear Linux.

It also defaults to the Performance scaling driver.  It is meant to be a racehorse.

All you need to verify that being the case is to look at any of Michael Larabel's Phoronix benchmarks of hardware and OS comparisons.  Clear Linux usually wipes the floor for probably at least 80% of all test applications against all comers.

 

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Boca Raton Community HS wrote:

GWGeorge007 wrote:

When you get the 2nd one up and running, how about a picture ( or three ) of what the students put together?

Here are some pictures (link). They are the same hardware, but we reversed the case/MB on one of them based on where it will be placed in the classroom. It does not seem to have any impact on the thermals. One is up and running (when I am in the classroom) and the other we are still messing with to see if we can get Clear Linux working with Nvidia drivers (not looking good). It is really impressive how much faster Clear Linux is but it is not really user-friendly (comparison- WCG Mapping CM tasks take ~3 hours each on Mint and ~2 hours each on Clear). 

Either way, the systems look great- they are all about function, power, airflow. The students are proud of their work and happy to see them starting to complete work units!

Hello Boca Raton Community HS...  Or can we call you by your first name...  Jonathan ?

I did some digging around for Linux Clear OS and I found one in particular

https://clearlinux.org/downloads

It has many different downloads, form Desktops to Servers, and in the Software section it has

https://clearlinux.org/software/bundle/boinc-client

I don't know if you have seen this or not, but it might be worth looking into.

I also found a couple of other websites that you may have seen, or not, but I found them interesting.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/02/linux-distro-review-intels-own-clear-linux-os/

https://clearlinux.github.io/clear-linux-documentation/tutorials/nvidia.html

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GWGeorge007 wrote: Boca

GWGeorge007 wrote:

Boca Raton Community HS wrote:

GWGeorge007 wrote:

When you get the 2nd one up and running, how about a picture ( or three ) of what the students put together?

Here are some pictures (link). They are the same hardware, but we reversed the case/MB on one of them based on where it will be placed in the classroom. It does not seem to have any impact on the thermals. One is up and running (when I am in the classroom) and the other we are still messing with to see if we can get Clear Linux working with Nvidia drivers (not looking good). It is really impressive how much faster Clear Linux is but it is not really user-friendly (comparison- WCG Mapping CM tasks take ~3 hours each on Mint and ~2 hours each on Clear). 

Either way, the systems look great- they are all about function, power, airflow. The students are proud of their work and happy to see them starting to complete work units!

Hello Boca Raton Community HS...  Or can we call you by your first name...  Jonathan ?

I did some digging around for Linux Clear OS and I found one in particular

https://clearlinux.org/downloads

It has many different downloads, form Desktops to Servers, and in the Software section it has

https://clearlinux.org/software/bundle/boinc-client

I don't know if you have seen this or not, but it might be worth looking into.

I also found a couple of other websites that you may have seen, or not, but I found them interesting.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/02/linux-distro-review-intels-own-clear-linux-os/

https://clearlinux.github.io/clear-linux-documentation/tutorials/nvidia.html

 

Ha! Yes- you can (or, just Jon). I represent our school's effort to help with scientific computing, but you are correct- I do maintain all of it.

Yep- so I was messing around with Clear and it is CRAZY fast when using the old GPUs. When I installed the new 4090 GPU, it would NOT work. The documentation is "limited" for Clear and Nvidia drivers, but let's just say that the install is not cut and dry. So, I am currently trying a solution on one of the systems. I am running Clear Linux in VMWare and running BOINC (WCG tasks only right now) on 32 cores. I am seeing if is is comparable to just a native install of Clear, and it is looking pretty good.

Theoretically, I could run WCG tasks in Clear (VMWare) and then just GPU tasks in Mint (hypervisor) since I had no issue with the Nvidia drivers).

We will see!

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Hi Mikey! It's been a

Hi Mikey!

It's been a while!  How are your 17 computers doing?  All well I hope.

I'm contacting you because I know that you have 2 AMD Threadripper 1920X's and I'm wondering what brand and model motherboard you are using?  Is it the same for both PC's?  How difficult was it to set up?  Any particular problems I should be aware of?

Hey!  When you have a chance, and if you don't mind, could you post some pictures of your 'computer room'?  If I'm not mistaken, it's in the garage?

Thanks!

George

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GWGeorge007 wrote: Hi

GWGeorge007 wrote:

Hi Mikey!

It's been a while!  How are your 17 computers doing?  All well I hope.

I'm contacting you because I know that you have 2 AMD Threadripper 1920X's and I'm wondering what brand and model motherboard you are using?  Is it the same for both PC's?  How difficult was it to set up?  Any particular problems I should be aware of?

Hey!  When you have a chance, and if you don't mind, could you post some pictures of your 'computer room'?  If I'm not mistaken, it's in the garage?

Thanks! 

I will check out the motherboards later tonight and get back to you, as for setting them up it was super easy as both run Windows and the only thing I had to load was the gpu drivers, one has an Nvidia 1070 while the other one has an Nvidia 1080 Ti in it. They run every project I've tried so far even Prime Grid cpu tasks but obviously the other Projects run much faster than the Prime Grid cpu tasks. Right both are running ALOT of Asteroid cpu tasks and some Einstein O3 cpu tasks as well.

As for the pictures I need to take some new ones and will post a link to them later on as well, the last ones I took were before I cleaned up the wiring a bit. The room is still not complete but it's closer than it was a month ago, my desk is still not a desk as the shelving isn't done and the monitors aren't setup either but the desktop is in place as well as the bracing underneath so the a/c techs can stand on it if needed.

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Hi Mikey! Thanks for

Hi Mikey!

Thanks for getting back to me.  My reason for all of this is I'm seriously considering getting a new TR & MB for doing more BOINC'ing around.   :>)   I don't have a 'computer room' as you do, nor do I have the number of PC's that you do.  Right now I just have the two desktops, and I MIGHT be encouraged to get a third... though not quite yet.  That being said, I'm willing to consider upgrading my equipment status to be slightly more competitive.

I'll be watching for the pictures and hope to get more info on the motherboards you chose... or were available.

George

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GWGeorge007 wrote:Hi

GWGeorge007 wrote:

Hi Mikey!

Thanks for getting back to me.  My reason for all of this is I'm seriously considering getting a new TR & MB for doing more BOINC'ing around.   :>)   I don't have a 'computer room' as you do, nor do I have the number of PC's that you do.  Right now I just have the two desktops, and I MIGHT be encouraged to get a third... though not quite yet.  That being said, I'm willing to consider upgrading my equipment status to be slightly more competitive.

I'll be watching for the pictures and hope to get more info on the motherboards you chose... or were available.

One MB is an Asus  X399-A (SP3R2) board while the other one is a Gigabyte X399 AORUS PRO-CF (SP3r2) board.

I think/hope you can see the pictures of my pc room here https://www.flickr.com/photos/12424716@N04

The mini-split heads should be there as well, the pictures that are in a basement are in my old house in Virginia from 6 years ago when i moved down here in North Carolina. The very last picture IS of me when I was ALOT younger.

mikey

 

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