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蛭魔妖一1
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Though my Einstein has worked for several hours,I didn't recieve any point or completed.It just works again and again from the begining.What should I do?

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Though my Einstein has worked for several hours,I didn't recieve any point or completed.It just works again and again from the begining.What should I do?


Your list of computers shows two hosts which appear to be identical. One was attached to the project on 2nd December and the other on 7th December. Do you actually have two machines or have you accidentally managed to attach the same machine twice? If you only have one machine, maybe you have installed BOINC twice on the one machine using different working directories? Please let us know if you only have one machine.

The processor is a single core Sempron 2600+ and each one listed has been allocated a single Gamma Ray Pulsar task. It wouldn't be surprising if the crunch time was something close to 24 hours. So after just a few hours, you should be able to see some progress in BOINC Manager - maybe 20% completed or so. Did you use the advanced view of BOINC Manager to observe the crunching progress? Please let us know exactly what you have observed.

FGRP! tasks need to accumulate 2% of crunching before a checkpoint is saved. This could take more than 20 minutes on your machine. If BOINC is stopped before a checkpoint is written, it will start crunching from the beginning when it is restarted. Once checkpoints have started being saved, crunching will restart from the last saved checkpoint if BOINC is stopped and restarted. I don't know if something like this is what you mean when you say, "It just works again and again from the beginning". Have you started BOINC and just watched it for a couple of hours without touching anything? If left alone it should just continue crunching.

Cheers,
Gary.

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I only have one machine. Even

I only have one machine.
Even if I let it work for an hour,it still starts again!

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Can you check how much RAM

Can you check how much RAM Windows reports as free? and how much RAM you have allowed in BoincManager? 90% ? 50% ?
Sorry i can't remember how much RAM GammaRay tasks use but i guess it is above 200 MB.

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Also: How are your general

Also: How are your general BOINC settings? Does it run while computer is in use? Do you leave tasks in memory while suspended?

Regarding the memory requirement, try WUProp:
[pre]Fermi LAT gamma-ray pulsar search 261.3
Gamma-ray pulsar search #1 265.5[/pre]

You can as well look for crunch-time there, but no-one has yet crunched Einstein and WUProp on that type of machine.

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RE: I only have one

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I only have one machine.


Go to your account page on the website and click the link which allows you to view your computers. You will see that you have two identical machines attached to the project. You will see that each one has a 'details' link. If you click through to the details page, you will find a 'merge' link right at the bottom. You can try clicking this link to see if you can 'merge' your duplicate host and end up with just one host ID. As you have a task listed for each separate ID, you may not be able to do a 'merge' until the task for the non-active host times out but it's probably worth trying each host in turn to see if a merge is allowed.

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Even if I let it work for an hour,it still starts again!


It really would help if you could give some detail about exactly what happens. What are the values showing in the three columns for 'Elapsed time', 'Progress', and 'To completion', on the BOINC Manager Tasks page, when BOINC is first started and at intervals after that? Does the 'Progress' value ever change from 0.000%? What is showing for 'Elapsed time' when you see it "starting again"? What do you really mean by, "It still starts again"? What settings do you have for the two preferences that Saenger mentions? If you have 'Suspend work when computer is in use' set to 'Yes' and if you have 'Leave tasks in memory when suspended' set to 'No', it would be very unlikely that any progress would be made while you were using your computer for other things.

Cheers,
Gary.

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I tried the first opinion you

I tried the first opinion you gave me,I wish it could help.
Second,'Elapsed time'turns back to zero after it cotinued.
'Progress', and 'To completion'are zero all the time

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RE: I tried the first

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I tried the first opinion you gave me,I wish it could help.


By this I assume you were not able to merge your duplicate IDs into a single identity. That's not all that important now. In time, the task for the non-current ID will time out and be removed from the database so you will be able to merge at that point. For now, it is more important to have your machine finish the currently active task.

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Second,'Elapsed time'turns back to zero after it cotinued.
'Progress', and 'To completion'are zero all the time


You need to answer the questions I asked last message. In particular, by checking your computing preferences on the website, what settings do you have for:

1. Suspend work while computer is in use?
2. Leave tasks in memory while suspended?

Also, you say that 'To completion' is "zero all the time". Surely this cannot be true. It must start with some non-zero estimate of how long BOINC thinks it will take to complete the task???? How long does BOINC think it will take to complete a task?

Cheers,
Gary.

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RE: RE: I tried the first

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I tried the first opinion you gave me,I wish it could help.

By this I assume you were not able to merge your duplicate IDs into a single identity. That's not all that important now. In time, the task for the non-current ID will time out and be removed from the database so you will be able to merge at that point. For now, it is more important to have your machine finish the currently active task.

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Second,'Elapsed time'turns back to zero after it cotinued.
'Progress', and 'To completion'are zero all the time

You need to answer the questions I asked last message. In particular, by checking your computing preferences on the website, what settings do you have for:

1. Suspend work while computer is in use?
2. Leave tasks in memory while suspended?

Also, you say that 'To completion' is "zero all the time". Surely this cannot be true. It must start with some non-zero estimate of how long BOINC thinks it will take to complete the task???? How long does BOINC think it will take to complete a task?


I've checked them.There is no mistake.
BOINC thinks it will take 11:02:14 to complete a task.
I think there must be something wrong because I surely 'To completion' is "zero" all the time.I have also canceled it and installed it again,but it didn't help,either.I have no idea why it happens.

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RE: BOINC thinks it will

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BOINC thinks it will take 11:02:14 to complete a task.
I think there must be something wrong because I surely 'To completion' is "zero" all the time.


How do you know that a task will take 11:02:14 to completion when the 'To completion' column shows zero? ;-)

Gruß,
Gundolf
[edit]And the question was not if there's a mistake but what your values are. The easiest way to tell us would be to copy&paste your global_prefs.xml (and global_prefs_override.xml if it exists) here.[/edit]

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RE: I've checked them.There

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I've checked them.There is no mistake.
BOINC thinks it will take 11:02:14 to complete a task.
I think there must be something wrong because I surely 'To completion' is "zero" all the time.


I will assume that you are not understanding English. I will try to write more clearly. I see you are from Taiwan. Do you have a friend who understands English better? Can you get a friend to read all the messages in this thread and explain them to you?

From what you have written, 'To completion' is 11 hours 2 minutes and 14 seconds. This is certainly not zero. It is a good number and it is a bit faster than I expected. I think your task may take a bit longer than this amount of time. After you start BOINC, I still think that you should see 'Progress' change to 2.000% after about 20 minutes of 'Elapsed time'. In case your settings are wrong, please start BOINC and do not touch your keyboard or mouse for the next hour. After that time, you should be able to see some 'Progress' and some 'Elapsed time'.

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I have also canceled it and installed it again,but it didn't help,either.I have no idea why it happens.


By "canceled" do you mean a proper uninstall or did you just delete any BOINC folders? A proper uninstall would not hurt anything but deleting folders could explain why your machine had two host IDs.

Also, I have just looked at your computers again and now you only have one host attached to the project. The 'merge' must have worked, even though you said it didn't. Your single host now shows both tasks so you should be able to crunch both and not have to wait for one to time out. Please get somebody to help you with the English so we can get your machine running properly.

Cheers,
Gary.

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