I watched the two Webinars. Attendance was not great, about 48 people.I wonder how many users really care about BOINC and its future. The Einstein presentation was very interesting. I have also watched two LIGO videos which stressed the importance of search for continuos gravitational waves sources. Although I am back from a hospital stay and am now in a rest home for old and ill people, without access to my four computers, I am still crunching 6 BOINC orojects, including Einstein and NumberFields@home on my laptop. I am 88 years old.
I watched the two Webinars. Attendance was not great, about 48 people.I wonder how many users really care about BOINC and its future. The Einstein presentation was very interesting. I have also watched two LIGO videos which stressed the importance of search for continuos gravitational waves sources. Although I am back from a hospital stay and am now in a rest home for old and ill people, without access to my four computers, I am still crunching 6 BOINC orojects, including Einstein and NumberFields@home on my laptop. I am 88 years old.
Tullio
Last year I think they provided a link to the different speakers speeches post conference so we could all see what they had to say, I think alot of people do that instead and I'm hoping they do it again too.
For E@H at least we've been running our own server fork for quite a while now ( locality scheduling ) but what of maintaining the client code ?
As for continuous gravitational wave sources : we have found none thus far. But that is the way of the Universe, as you don't see unless you look. But our results bound some of the parameters for the equation of state for spinning neutron star material. What interesting stuff it must be, but it may take another class of detectors ( yet to be built ) to get any signal of continuous type from them. See the Einstein Telescope.
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
In his final speech David Anderson put forward a question: what will happen to BOINC if I am unable to carry on my duties? Who will take my place?
Tullio
I don't know who will either but I am absolutely sure that someone will, there are ALOT of very dedicated people who crunch tasks for a very wide variety of reasons and David's question is the same one that every Leader has ever asked, 'if not me who?'. The answer often comes from both within the Team of people helping the Leader and from outside as well as new people who step up to help make things 'better' instead of strictly following in the Leaders footsteps, this often leads to great advances in the way things are done and thought of as new people are no longer constrained by the Leaders way of doing things 'the way they've always done them'. In Boinc I think this could lead to whole new bunch of places to get data from and also reanalyze old data in new ways perhaps looking for different things than the original data research did.
In the Boinc software for example a large advance would be to finally and definitively split the 32 and 64 bit crunching software paths so they are no longer 40 gazillion workarounds to make things work some 30 years after Boinc launched now with 128 cpu core pc's being seen on a regular basis crunching instead of just using Boinc as a testing environment. And that doesn't even take into account the advancements in the graphics cards, good grief WHY are we still using a single cache when we have multiple ways of crunching now?
In the Server side of Boinc I think the Projects themselves would LOVE to be able to have something they can use out of the box like now but without someone having to be a Programmer to change things from the defaults where they have to change something in multiple places just to affect the changes they wish to make, changing the way credits are awarded is the main issue in my example, but alot of Projects have people running the Boinc Server side software who are Grad Students and then they are gone and a whole new Grad Student is starting from square one again. This is not to say the Projects don't share blame in this but the way they are doing things doesn't always make it as easy as it could be and the Boinc Programmers could help them make that easier.
NONE of that is to say that I wish David was gone tomorrow, I WOULD NEVER WISH THAT, he has taken this dream a very long ways from the initial paper requesting funding for this thing called Boinc and under his stewardership it has grown by leaps and bounds and hopefully there are many more to come!! I for one am anxiously awaiting the next way that Boinc gets better than it is today with David at it's helm.
I am a long time BOINC user. Recently I had to use the Science United approach since I could not remember all my passwords after a hospital stay and a new laptop. I was given projects I never heard of like NumberFields@home. Then I added known projects live LHC@home, ClimatePrediction.net and World Community Grid which is failing after its transition to the Krembil Institute. But I still like David Anderson.
I am a long time BOINC user. Recently I had to use the Science United approach since I could not remember all my passwords after a hospital stay and a new laptop. I was given projects I never heard of like NumberFields@home. Then I added known projects live LHC@home, ClimatePrediction.net and World Community Grid which is failing after its transition to the Krembil Institute. But I still like David Anderson.
Tullio
There are over half a dozen small Boinc Projects that are trying to navigate the challenges of running Boinc for the masses, some like Yafu and Gerasim are doing better lately while other like Ithena Computational and Ithena Measurements are still going thru growing pains as they try to figure out how to keep things running consistently. A Project like Wanless, Linux only, has been going quite nicely for awhile as well. TN-Grid did some of the initial work on the Covid vaccine and always seems to have work as well but it isn't on the list of Projects as yet either.
Today I am running 10 Einstein@home CPU tasks plus one GPU task and a longwinded SiDock task on my Intel i5 with 12 threads. The Intel GPU processor is inferior to my nVidia boards which I cannot access but it does its work. Thanks God for Einstein, it never lacks tasks.
Today I am running 10 Einstein@home CPU tasks plus one GPU task and a longwinded SiDock task on my Intel i5 with 12 threads. The Intel GPU processor is inferior to my nVidia boards which I cannot access but it does its work. Thanks God for Einstein, it never lacks tasks.
Tullio
I agree with you that Einstein does seem to have tasks I just wish their selection list would show which was cpu and which was gpu as opposed to having to try and use the Applications page and it's widely mismatched names.
I watched the two Webinars.
)
I watched the two Webinars. Attendance was not great, about 48 people.I wonder how many users really care about BOINC and its future. The Einstein presentation was very interesting. I have also watched two LIGO videos which stressed the importance of search for continuos gravitational waves sources. Although I am back from a hospital stay and am now in a rest home for old and ill people, without access to my four computers, I am still crunching 6 BOINC orojects, including Einstein and NumberFields@home on my laptop. I am 88 years old.
Tullio
tullio wrote: I watched the
)
Last year I think they provided a link to the different speakers speeches post conference so we could all see what they had to say, I think alot of people do that instead and I'm hoping they do it again too.
In his final speech David
)
In his final speech David Anderson put forward a question: what will happen to BOINC if I am unable to carry on my duties? Who will take my place?
Tullio
Who indeed ?For E@H at
)
Who indeed ?
For E@H at least we've been running our own server fork for quite a while now ( locality scheduling ) but what of maintaining the client code ?
As for continuous gravitational wave sources : we have found none thus far. But that is the way of the Universe, as you don't see unless you look. But our results bound some of the parameters for the equation of state for spinning neutron star material. What interesting stuff it must be, but it may take another class of detectors ( yet to be built ) to get any signal of continuous type from them. See the Einstein Telescope.
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
tullio wrote: In his final
)
I don't know who will either but I am absolutely sure that someone will, there are ALOT of very dedicated people who crunch tasks for a very wide variety of reasons and David's question is the same one that every Leader has ever asked, 'if not me who?'. The answer often comes from both within the Team of people helping the Leader and from outside as well as new people who step up to help make things 'better' instead of strictly following in the Leaders footsteps, this often leads to great advances in the way things are done and thought of as new people are no longer constrained by the Leaders way of doing things 'the way they've always done them'. In Boinc I think this could lead to whole new bunch of places to get data from and also reanalyze old data in new ways perhaps looking for different things than the original data research did.
In the Boinc software for example a large advance would be to finally and definitively split the 32 and 64 bit crunching software paths so they are no longer 40 gazillion workarounds to make things work some 30 years after Boinc launched now with 128 cpu core pc's being seen on a regular basis crunching instead of just using Boinc as a testing environment. And that doesn't even take into account the advancements in the graphics cards, good grief WHY are we still using a single cache when we have multiple ways of crunching now?
In the Server side of Boinc I think the Projects themselves would LOVE to be able to have something they can use out of the box like now but without someone having to be a Programmer to change things from the defaults where they have to change something in multiple places just to affect the changes they wish to make, changing the way credits are awarded is the main issue in my example, but alot of Projects have people running the Boinc Server side software who are Grad Students and then they are gone and a whole new Grad Student is starting from square one again. This is not to say the Projects don't share blame in this but the way they are doing things doesn't always make it as easy as it could be and the Boinc Programmers could help them make that easier.
NONE of that is to say that I wish David was gone tomorrow, I WOULD NEVER WISH THAT, he has taken this dream a very long ways from the initial paper requesting funding for this thing called Boinc and under his stewardership it has grown by leaps and bounds and hopefully there are many more to come!! I for one am anxiously awaiting the next way that Boinc gets better than it is today with David at it's helm.
I am a long time BOINC user.
)
I am a long time BOINC user. Recently I had to use the Science United approach since I could not remember all my passwords after a hospital stay and a new laptop. I was given projects I never heard of like NumberFields@home. Then I added known projects live LHC@home, ClimatePrediction.net and World Community Grid which is failing after its transition to the Krembil Institute. But I still like David Anderson.
Tullio
tullio wrote: I am a long
)
There are over half a dozen small Boinc Projects that are trying to navigate the challenges of running Boinc for the masses, some like Yafu and Gerasim are doing better lately while other like Ithena Computational and Ithena Measurements are still going thru growing pains as they try to figure out how to keep things running consistently. A Project like Wanless, Linux only, has been going quite nicely for awhile as well. TN-Grid did some of the initial work on the Covid vaccine and always seems to have work as well but it isn't on the list of Projects as yet either.
Today I am running 10
)
Today I am running 10 Einstein@home CPU tasks plus one GPU task and a longwinded SiDock task on my Intel i5 with 12 threads. The Intel GPU processor is inferior to my nVidia boards which I cannot access but it does its work. Thanks God for Einstein, it never lacks tasks.
Tullio
tullio wrote: Today I am
)
I agree with you that Einstein does seem to have tasks I just wish their selection list would show which was cpu and which was gpu as opposed to having to try and use the Applications page and it's widely mismatched names.
On my BOINC Manager the CPU
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On my BOINC Manager the CPU tasks are marked as running, the GPU tasks as running 1 CPU plus one Intel GPU
Tullio