Boinc upgrade problems
30 Nov 2005 14:48:01 UTC
Topic 190265
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I shut down my e@h machine over the holiday, and when I tried to restart the project, it failed.
I then found the newest Boinc, uninstalled the old 4.xx version, and installed the new one-- three times. The first time, in shared mode, I couldn't persuade it to start a client. The second time, I tried the single user mode, and found it wouldn't install under a limited type account. Running boinc always under an admin account is not acceptable. The third time, I again tried shared mode, and this time, restarted the computer right after the installation. Then, it found the e@h project, but after starting the (continuing) job under admin, boinc manager has locked in some way. It no longer opens from the icon on the task bar, and when I open it from the start menu, it locks at the "connecting to localhost" stage.
I'm running Windows XP Pro with all the latest critical updates and Norton NIS 2005, also up to date.
Boinc upgrade problems
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If you haven't been paying real close attention lately, you may not know that the "newest BOINC" is a bit of a "moving target". Last week, the "newest BOINC" was v5.2.8. Today it is v5.2.13 (at least it was before I started writing this). The point is, there have been a lot of minor fixes to BOINC very recently, so if you are not working with v5.2.13 (and you did not specify), that might be the first thing to try.
RE: RE: I then found the
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Stick,
The heroic efforts of Mr. Rom Walton to evolve the 5.x.x BOINC client (you've credited above) are the sole reason that I haven't been pushing the default installer options over on the BOINC boards. The last post on that thread makes me angry every time I read it, asserting that loading a resource-intensive app at startup is somehow "Normal". I wonder if it's also considered normal to load Photoshop, Premier, etc, and have them working on editing at startup, or should we let the machine get it's legs under itself before pounding it.
You are ever the silver-tongued salesman, amigo - I'm glad that we're working on the same side. :-)
Michael
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK
I assumed that downloading
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I assumed that downloading yesterday would get the "newest"! In fact,
it is 5.2.13.
RE: I assumed that
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William,
Just a shot in the dark here :-)
Is your Norton firewall (and windows firewall, if you have that enabled also) configured to allow Boinc access?
Regards,
Michael
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK
Reasonable guess, but I've
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Reasonable guess, but I've checked NIS and the firewall lists Boinc as
"allow all". Further, I've had it running briefly under the admin
account, but now it hangs. I've not had it do anything sensible under
the user's account since the upgrade.
Thx,
- Bill
RE: Reasonable guess, but
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Bill,
Let's try this - First, shut down the computer completely. wait a minute, and then restart. Then, please copy and paste the contents of the "Messages" tab and post them in this thread, along with your selections in General Preferences on your account page. Perhaps that will give us some insight into the nature of the problem.
Regards,
Michael
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK
Hi Michael, At the time of
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Hi Michael,
At the time of this snapshot, the e@h job is running under admin.
Boinc MGR MESSAGE WINDOW ---------------------------------------
11/30/2005 11:44:46 AM||Starting BOINC client version 5.2.13 for windows_intelx86
11/30/2005 11:44:46 AM||libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
11/30/2005 11:44:46 AM||Data directory: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC
11/30/2005 11:44:46 AM||Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.60GHz
11/30/2005 11:44:46 AM||Memory: 255.01 MB physical, 616.26 MB virtual
11/30/2005 11:44:46 AM||Disk: 74.50 GB total, 61.03 GB free
11/30/2005 11:44:46 AM|Einstein@Home|Computer ID: 119114; location: home; project prefs: default
11/30/2005 11:44:46 AM||General prefs: from Einstein@Home (last modified 2005-04-15 10:50:05)
11/30/2005 11:44:46 AM||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
11/30/2005 11:44:48 AM||Remote control not allowed; using loopback address
11/30/2005 11:44:48 AM|Einstein@Home|Resuming computation for result w1_1308.5__1308.9_0.1_T07_S4hC_3 using einstein version 479
E@H GENERAL PREFERENCES ---------------------------------
Processor usage
Do work while computer is running on batteries?
(matters only for portable computers) no
Do work while computer is in use? no
Do work only after computer is idle for 10 minutes
Do work only between the hours of (no restriction)
Leave applications in memory while preempted?
(suspended applications will consume swap space if 'yes') no
Switch between applications every
(recommended: 60 minutes) 60 minutes
On multiprocessors, use at most 2 processors
Disk and memory usage
Use no more than 1 GB disk space
Leave at least 1 GB disk space free
Use no more than 10% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 120 seconds
Use no more than 75% of total virtual memory
Network usage
Connect to network about every
(determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days) 0.1 days
Confirm before connecting to Internet?
(matters only if you use a modem) no
Disconnect when done?
(matters only if you use a modem) yes
Maximum download rate: 500 KB/s
Maximum upload rate: 100 KB/s
Use network only between the hours of
Enforced by versions 4.46 and greater (no restriction)
Skip image file verification?
Check this ONLY if your Internet provider modifies image files (UMTS does this, for example).
Skipping verification reduces the security of BOINC. no
Thanks,
- Bill
Bill, I think your "Do
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Bill,
I think your "Do work while computer is in use? no" pref may be the culprit here. That is, when you try to look at what BOINC is doing, it isn't doing anything, because it can't be doing anything, because that's what the preference says. Try changing it to "yes" and see what happens.
Stick
Edit: I came to this conclusion because your messages indicate that BOINC is running Einstein - it's just not doing it when you are doing something else with your computer.
RE: Hi Michael, At the
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Bill,
The line I've italicized appears to indicate that your Einstein workunit is presently crunching. Is that the case?
Secondly, where I've emboldened part of your preference listing (and it appears that this is not a problem for you yet, because there are no error messages about disk space), the way that BOINC looks at disk memory requirements has changed with the move from the 4.xx to the 5.x.x client. I've just today run across a thread explaining the change, and I'll try to run it down and link it a little later, maybe even soon enough to add it to this post as an "edit".
Michael
(edit) OK, that was easy. Walt Gribben has researched and posted the changes in disk space calculation here.
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK
RE: Use no more than 1 GB
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Bill,
Michael is right about these settings. There have been a lot of problems reported lately regarding disk space problems. The issue is still somewhat in "limbo" but there were couple of recent posts that indicate a bug was found and fixed. Not a problem for you yet but you might want to keep this thread in mind and adjust your disc prefs accordingly (whenever it is convenient).
Stick