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So trying to wrap my mind about this, is this basically Ubuntu with a Windows-like shell replacing Gnome?
Could be fun to give this a shot.
There are 2 or more Linux as Windows out there. Linspire, Zorin and this one.
The Gold standard is the Desktop looks EXACTLY like windows (XP, Win10, Win11 etc). But even when they do, sooner or later you stumble over something that looks more like Linux. I believe they ALL come with WINE installed so you can run many but not all Windows applications. Including a number of Windows games.
Yes, Boinc installs and runs under them.
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
I don't see the point in trying to fool yourself its Windows just because it LOOKS like Windows. Especially when nothing under the hood is Windows and won't act like Windows.
Want to install a windows app? Nope can't do that
Want to trouble shoot a problem and follow a Windows guide? Nope can't do that
Want to install anything in familiar way like Windows does? Nope can't do that.
Why bother? you still have to learn the Linux way either way. I see it causing more frustration than good with people thinking it's Windows making them think they can do Windows things. As far as I'm aware, the biggest thing holding people back from switching isn't the windows manager or how things look, it's how it actually works being fundamentally different and them not wanting to change.
That is why WINE is so important. It allows transparent execution of a lot of Windows apps. Without the efforts of WINE or any other WINE-like software all LInux/Windows are dead in the water.
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
Wine is not a savior. Many many things do not work even via wine. Like modern versions of Microsoft office. And many games.
and then theres all the other aspects of just using windows. Normal things that people will be used to just won’t work. All the terminal commands are different. Navigating basic OS stuff is different.
This is a follow up related to Windows-like Linux.
It talks about "binary compatibility" etc. Apparently this is a from the ground up design rather than a retrofit onto Linux?
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
Is there a sticky thread with a (periodically updated) "recipe for success" with a Linux installation, that just runs E@H? I installed Zorin 17, followed advice from BOINC stepwise, got that installed and operational, accessed my account, and waited for two days for some work to download, but nothing arrived. Assuming I have made a mistake, where should I go for further instructions?
Also, is the Search tool broken here on E@H? I entered a query about this, but I am FORBIDDEN, even though i am logged in.
Is there a sticky thread with a (periodically updated) "recipe for success" with a Linux installation, that just runs E@H? I installed Zorin 17, followed advice from BOINC stepwise, got that installed and operational, accessed my account, and waited for two days for some work to download, but nothing arrived. Assuming I have made a mistake, where should I go for further instructions?
Also, is the Search tool broken here on E@H? I entered a query about this, but I am FORBIDDEN, even though i am logged in.
Thanks for your time
I have run boinc mgr under zorin. So in principle you should be able to.
You are aware your GPU has not been installed?
Setup a CPU only profile and set that system to it. If it downloads then your boinc setup is working.
There are two things you have to install to get boinc GPU processing under boinc to work.
One is a 515 or higher version of the Nvidia driver. The other is the OCL layer. I will switch systems and post that command line for the terminal.
==edit===
$ sudo apt-get install ocl-icd-libopencl1
A NVIDIA driver should be accessible through either the "software update" (additional drivers) GUI or something like this command:
$ sudo apt install nvidia-driver-535
If the NVIDIA driver install throws ANY errors then it didn't install properly and you are still stuck with running cpu only tasks.
Yes you have to reboot after the NVIDIA driver install and after the OCL install. I prefer installing the Nvidia driver first and the OCL driver second. I don't remember if there is any problem installing in the reverse order. Please use a "proprietary only" driver. "Open" does not work.
Keep talking to us.
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
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https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-24.04-AMD-EPYC-Milan
Anyone running a Milan CPU gets an up lift. Freewill, Keith...
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So trying to wrap my mind about this, is this basically Ubuntu with a Windows-like shell replacing Gnome?
Could be fun to give this a shot.
Jimbocous wrote:Tom M
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There are 2 or more Linux as Windows out there. Linspire, Zorin and this one.
The Gold standard is the Desktop looks EXACTLY like windows (XP, Win10, Win11 etc). But even when they do, sooner or later you stumble over something that looks more like Linux. I believe they ALL come with WINE installed so you can run many but not all Windows applications. Including a number of Windows games.
Yes, Boinc installs and runs under them.
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
I don't see the point in
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I don't see the point in trying to fool yourself its Windows just because it LOOKS like Windows. Especially when nothing under the hood is Windows and won't act like Windows.
Want to install a windows app? Nope can't do that
Want to trouble shoot a problem and follow a Windows guide? Nope can't do that
Want to install anything in familiar way like Windows does? Nope can't do that.
Why bother? you still have to learn the Linux way either way. I see it causing more frustration than good with people thinking it's Windows making them think they can do Windows things. As far as I'm aware, the biggest thing holding people back from switching isn't the windows manager or how things look, it's how it actually works being fundamentally different and them not wanting to change.
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Ian&SteveC,
That is why WINE is so important. It allows transparent execution of a lot of Windows apps. Without the efforts of WINE or any other WINE-like software all LInux/Windows are dead in the water.
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
Wine is not a savior. Many
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Wine is not a savior. Many many things do not work even via wine. Like modern versions of Microsoft office. And many games.
and then theres all the other aspects of just using windows. Normal things that people will be used to just won’t work. All the terminal commands are different. Navigating basic OS stuff is different.
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https://www.phoronix.com/news
)
https://www.phoronix.com/news/ReactOS-May-2024-Update
This is a follow up related to Windows-like Linux.
It talks about "binary compatibility" etc. Apparently this is a from the ground up design rather than a retrofit onto Linux?
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
Anyone: Is there a sticky
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Anyone:
Is there a sticky thread with a (periodically updated) "recipe for success" with a Linux installation, that just runs E@H? I installed Zorin 17, followed advice from BOINC stepwise, got that installed and operational, accessed my account, and waited for two days for some work to download, but nothing arrived. Assuming I have made a mistake, where should I go for further instructions?
Also, is the Search tool broken here on E@H? I entered a query about this, but I am FORBIDDEN, even though i am logged in.
Thanks for your time
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I have run boinc mgr under zorin. So in principle you should be able to.
You are aware your GPU has not been installed?
Setup a CPU only profile and set that system to it. If it downloads then your boinc setup is working.
There are two things you have to install to get boinc GPU processing under boinc to work.
One is a 515 or higher version of the Nvidia driver. The other is the OCL layer. I will switch systems and post that command line for the terminal.
==edit===
$ sudo apt-get install ocl-icd-libopencl1
A NVIDIA driver should be accessible through either the "software update" (additional drivers) GUI or something like this command:
$ sudo apt install nvidia-driver-535
If the NVIDIA driver install throws ANY errors then it didn't install properly and you are still stuck with running cpu only tasks.
Yes you have to reboot after the NVIDIA driver install and after the OCL install. I prefer installing the Nvidia driver first and the OCL driver second. I don't remember if there is any problem installing in the reverse order. Please use a "proprietary only" driver. "Open" does not work.
Keep talking to us.
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!