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Ian&Steve C.
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probably the drivers not

probably the drivers not loading. On Ubuntu and alike if Nvidia drivers aren't installed, it'll usually default to Nouveau. I'm unfamiliar with Clear Linux and how this is normally handled there. you might need to do some digging in Clear Linux specific help boards and forums on how to install Nvidia drivers.

the first thing I would try if it were me, would be installing the Nvidia drivers with a different card installed, then swapping the 4090 in and booting it up.

the second thing I would try to do is access the command line from whatever kind of safe mode or recovery boot method exists in Clear linux, then installing the nvidia drivers that way.

but these are only general/logical suggestions, you'll need to so some digging for the specific way to do these things on Clear Linux.

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Thanks for the advice. We

Thanks for the advice. We will definitely try switching the GPU back. 

I booted Linux Mint without an issue (was just curious). I can always install Mint if Clear is going to cause too many issues. There is not much documentation about Clear out there, nor people to ask that have used it. 

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As a follow up- for now, we

As a follow up- for now, we are just going to use Mint. Simple reason- it worked. 

I kept the partition for Clear (for the time being) but I definitely am so short on time that if I can just have it all work, then we will go that route.

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Not a bad decision. Linux

Not a bad decision. Linux Mint and Ubuntu both are much more user friendly. and even though I'm fairly well versed in Linux, I stick to vanilla Ubuntu Desktop LTS on all my crunchers. mainly because if I ever have an issue, it's likely that 100 or 1000 other people had the same exact problem and there's already a solution online somewhere lol

 

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I had a go with looking at

I had a go with looking at Mint this past weekend for a installation I was doing for a fellow cruncher.  I haven't looked at Mint since I started with Linux.

Nice looking Desktop but it does do things a bit differently than plain vanilla Ubuntu Gnome LTS.  I had to figure out how to do things quite a bit differently than what I am used to with Ubuntu.

If you start with Mint then you don't have to unlearn muscle memory from Ubuntu which was mostly was my problem and where configurations were.

I often find solutions from the Mint camp also when I look for internet solutions for Linux or Ubuntu.  So a fairly large group of users to pull solutions from also.

 

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Ian&Steve C. wrote: Not a

Ian&Steve C. wrote:

Not a bad decision. Linux Mint and Ubuntu both are much more user friendly. and even though I'm fairly well versed in Linux, I stick to vanilla Ubuntu Desktop LTS on all my crunchers. mainly because if I ever have an issue, it's likely that 100 or 1000 other people had the same exact problem and there's already a solution online somewhere lol

 

 

Completely get that- I think being mostly unversed in all things Linux, starting with Clear Linux won't be the way to go- there really is VERY limited community help, let alone in BOINC. 

I installed Mint, was able to install Nvidia drivers, and then I installed BOINC. Then BOINC decided it didn't want to open (I don't remember the exact error but I know it was related to not being able to see my home user directory). Then, I went home. haha

When I get in tomorrow I will be able to post the exact error message. I used: 

"sudo aptitude install boinc-client boinc-manager"

I have used this before and not had an issue, but I have never tried before using Mint Xfce Edition. Could this be part of the problem (versus MATE or Cinnamon)?

Thank you all for your help- we really couldn't do it without you all!

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When I get in tomorrow I will be able to post the exact error message. I used: 

"sudo aptitude install boinc-client boinc-manager"

Random thought : I've only ever specified one package on the command line at a time. I'm unsure of the order of evaluation if several are mentioned. But I reckon there's a sequence dependency here ie. boinc client must be present for the boinc manager install to succeed. Try

sudo aptitude install boinc-client

then :

sudo aptitude install boinc-manager

Cheers, Mike.

( edit ) Scrap the above. You can specify multiple packages and the order doesn't matter either, aptitude will do a dependency analysis ( successfully I suppose provided there's no cycles ).

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

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Boca Raton Community HS wrote:

Ian&Steve C. wrote:

Not a bad decision. Linux Mint and Ubuntu both are much more user friendly. and even though I'm fairly well versed in Linux, I stick to vanilla Ubuntu Desktop LTS on all my crunchers. mainly because if I ever have an issue, it's likely that 100 or 1000 other people had the same exact problem and there's already a solution online somewhere lol

 

 

Completely get that- I think being mostly unversed in all things Linux, starting with Clear Linux won't be the way to go- there really is VERY limited community help, let alone in BOINC. 

I installed Mint, was able to install Nvidia drivers, and then I installed BOINC. Then BOINC decided it didn't want to open (I don't remember the exact error but I know it was related to not being able to see my home user directory). Then, I went home. haha

When I get in tomorrow I will be able to post the exact error message. I used: 

"sudo aptitude install boinc-client boinc-manager"

I have used this before and not had an issue, but I have never tried before using Mint Xfce Edition. Could this be part of the problem (versus MATE or Cinnamon)?

Thank you all for your help- we really couldn't do it without you all!

The last several versions of Linux Mint and maybe even Ubuntu as well have had problems loading Boinc, the LM forums have noted it by more than a few people but no solutions have been posted yet. Keith Myers posted something a while back though on how to fix it in Ubuntu which MAY fix it on LM as well though I have not tried it. The last version that 'just works' is 20.3, they are up into the 21's now, and for me I will continue using the older versions until I can't anymore as mine are Boinc only pc's so no personal data on them beyond Boinc. I don't remember what he posted but it was something about permission issues I think.

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mikey wrote: Boca Raton

mikey wrote:

Boca Raton Community HS wrote:

Ian&Steve C. wrote:

Not a bad decision. Linux Mint and Ubuntu both are much more user friendly. and even though I'm fairly well versed in Linux, I stick to vanilla Ubuntu Desktop LTS on all my crunchers. mainly because if I ever have an issue, it's likely that 100 or 1000 other people had the same exact problem and there's already a solution online somewhere lol

 

 

Completely get that- I think being mostly unversed in all things Linux, starting with Clear Linux won't be the way to go- there really is VERY limited community help, let alone in BOINC. 

I installed Mint, was able to install Nvidia drivers, and then I installed BOINC. Then BOINC decided it didn't want to open (I don't remember the exact error but I know it was related to not being able to see my home user directory). Then, I went home. haha

When I get in tomorrow I will be able to post the exact error message. I used: 

"sudo aptitude install boinc-client boinc-manager"

I have used this before and not had an issue, but I have never tried before using Mint Xfce Edition. Could this be part of the problem (versus MATE or Cinnamon)?

Thank you all for your help- we really couldn't do it without you all!

The last several versions of Linux Mint and maybe even Ubuntu as well have had problems loading Boinc, the LM forums have noted it by more than a few people but no solutions have been posted yet. Keith Myers posted something a while back though on how to fix it in Ubuntu which MAY fix it on LM as well though I have not tried it. The last version that 'just works' is 20.3, they are up into the 21's now, and for me I will continue using the older versions until I can't anymore as mine are Boinc only pc's so no personal data on them beyond Boinc. I don't remember what he posted but it was something about permission issues I think.

 

Thanks for letting me know this. I am downloading 20.3 right now. I am going to give 21.1 one more try today (if I have time) and if that doesn't work, I will have 20.3 ready to go. 

 

Thanks again

Ian&Steve C.
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try using the gianfranco PPA

try using the gianfranco PPA for boinc instead of what's in the repositories.

https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/boinc

add the PPA with this command:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:costamagnagianfranco/boinc

and:
sudo apt update


then:
sudo apt install boinc

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