Without trying to effend anyone, how do these stuff ups occur?
Is it an egghead isue, where changes are made without understanding the ramifications on the project and the volunteers that spend their money on supporting this project.
While I am happy to crunch away for credits, in the hope that science will benefit, where is the acountability of the project Team?
I only ask these questions as a Senior Busines Manager of a Major Corporation.
Without trying to effend anyone, how do these stuff ups occur?
Is it an egghead isue, where changes are made without understanding the ramifications on the project and the volunteers that spend their money on supporting this project.
While I am happy to crunch away for credits, in the hope that science will benefit, where is the acountability of the project Team?
I only ask these questions as a Senior Busines Manager of a Major Corporation.
Ah, to err is to be human. Sort of like typing/spelling mistakes really :-) :-) :-)
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
Without trying to effend anyone, how do these stuff ups occur?
Is it an egghead isue, where changes are made without understanding the ramifications on the project and the volunteers that spend their money on supporting this project.
While I am happy to crunch away for credits, in the hope that science will benefit, where is the acountability of the project Team?
I only ask these questions as a Senior Busines Manager of a Major Corporation.
Vaughan
hmm, well being the head of a company you have the cash to hire folks that can be devoted to only one or two tasks, i.e. db management, site development, software development. where as the project does not, and those that run it have to wear many hats.
the volunteers spend their money on hardware to run the project, but not on the project its self, if their was a way for people to donate money to the project its self for hardware and personnel then i could follow this line of logic.
the accountability comes in as has been shown here, a volunteer or group there of points out a problem to the project and the project finds the problem and fixes it as has been done here. certain other projects would have had you wait a week or two untill they got around to it.
thats my take on it :)
seeing without seeing is something the blind learn to do, and seeing beyond vision can be a gift.
the accountability comes in as has been shown here, a volunteer or group there of points out a problem to the project and the project finds the problem and fixes it as has been done here. certain other projects would have had you wait a week or two untill they got around to it.
thats my take on it :)
I totally agree with you Paul. Einstein@home is a project with one of the best responses and effort to put things right.
First, I'd thank you for the fast intervention of the team for this issue.
Nowadays the workunits in question are hanging around with the pending state, while my wingman has also finished the workunit.
May there be some change in the future?
Nowadays the workunits in question are hanging around with the pending state, while my wingman has also finished the workunit.
May there be some change in the future?
thanks
There has been change again today. First thing in the morning (here in the mountain states of the USA) all ABP2 validators were turned off--consistent with a message posted in News. For several hours now the full set of ABP2 validators have shown in the server status page as running.
At a more practical level, for my hosts, which had seen essentially negligible validations on ABP2 10x work, each now shows an appreciable number validated, a tiny number declared invalid, and a considerable remaining backlog of pending. As I run 6 day queues, most of these pending are of the sort you describe--quorum has reported, but the validator did not get to it yet.
So to my eye (participant, not from any inside data) it seems things continue to get better--though a few of us will probably lose credit in some of the special cases. At the moment I am posting the server status pages lists 45064 ABP2 workunits awaiting validation as of an update at 7 Oct 2010 19:15:03 UTC. Watching that number decline is probably a useful index of progress at the project level on resolving this issue.
I've got ABP2 WU's in 2 and 5
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I've got ABP2 WU's in 2 and 5 hour sizes; am I correct in thinking that the new WU's have 10 tasks internally?
Without trying to effend
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Without trying to effend anyone, how do these stuff ups occur?
Is it an egghead isue, where changes are made without understanding the ramifications on the project and the volunteers that spend their money on supporting this project.
While I am happy to crunch away for credits, in the hope that science will benefit, where is the acountability of the project Team?
I only ask these questions as a Senior Busines Manager of a Major Corporation.
Vaughan
RE: Without trying to
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Ah, to err is to be human. Sort of like typing/spelling mistakes really :-) :-) :-)
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
Hmmmmmmm, true, but spelling
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Hmmmmmmm, true, but spelling mistakes do not effect many people.
RE: Without trying to
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hmm, well being the head of a company you have the cash to hire folks that can be devoted to only one or two tasks, i.e. db management, site development, software development. where as the project does not, and those that run it have to wear many hats.
the volunteers spend their money on hardware to run the project, but not on the project its self, if their was a way for people to donate money to the project its self for hardware and personnel then i could follow this line of logic.
the accountability comes in as has been shown here, a volunteer or group there of points out a problem to the project and the project finds the problem and fixes it as has been done here. certain other projects would have had you wait a week or two untill they got around to it.
thats my take on it :)
seeing without seeing is something the blind learn to do, and seeing beyond vision can be a gift.
RE: the accountability
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I totally agree with you Paul. Einstein@home is a project with one of the best responses and effort to put things right.
Greetings from
TJ
First, I'd thank you for the
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First, I'd thank you for the fast intervention of the team for this issue.
Nowadays the workunits in question are hanging around with the pending state, while my wingman has also finished the workunit.
May there be some change in the future?
thanks
RE: Nowadays the workunits
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There has been change again today. First thing in the morning (here in the mountain states of the USA) all ABP2 validators were turned off--consistent with a message posted in News. For several hours now the full set of ABP2 validators have shown in the server status page as running.
At a more practical level, for my hosts, which had seen essentially negligible validations on ABP2 10x work, each now shows an appreciable number validated, a tiny number declared invalid, and a considerable remaining backlog of pending. As I run 6 day queues, most of these pending are of the sort you describe--quorum has reported, but the validator did not get to it yet.
So to my eye (participant, not from any inside data) it seems things continue to get better--though a few of us will probably lose credit in some of the special cases. At the moment I am posting the server status pages lists 45064 ABP2 workunits awaiting validation as of an update at 7 Oct 2010 19:15:03 UTC. Watching that number decline is probably a useful index of progress at the project level on resolving this issue.
I notice that some of the
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I notice that some of the resent tasks have status "Completed, too late to validate", looks like the first three to report get the glory !
That shouldn't happen. Can
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That shouldn't happen. Can you name an example?
BM
BM