- UPDATE - Car Companies are collecting data that is considered private

Jinkei
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Thanks George. And this is

Thanks George. And this is exactly why I love the internet. For discussions such as this one, we as consumers/citizens are all in the same boat, no matter where you come from or what colour you are. Which is why I have the motto E pluribus unum as my footer, I thoroughly believe in it and it is the only we we will ever be able to make the difference !

E pluribus unum

mikey
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GWGeorge007 wrote: Hi

GWGeorge007 wrote:

Hi JINKEI!

I couldn't agree more, especially with your scenario of "if I drive alone at night and run into a tree, it's nice if my car can call for help and tell where I am."

I also agree with "It's been proven time and again that for profit operations can't be trusted to act conscionably."

Good post!

I'm hoping the EU Regulators get their claws into this and rein it in so the data is more anonymous except in emergency situations, and even then I'm not sure if telling Emergency Services that 'mikey crashed his car at XXX and needs help' is any more helpful than 'a car crashed at XXX and the occupant needs help'.

Gary Charpentier
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Jinkei wrote: It's been

Jinkei wrote:

It's been proven time and again that for profit operations can't be trusted to act conscionably.

The fiduciary duty to the shareholder is primary, so they do act conscionably and ethically, it is that we fail to understand they have a different set of rules than the public.

Perhaps it is time to change their set of rules?

GWGeorge007
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Mozilla / Firefox finally got

Mozilla / Firefox finally got a response from the U.S Government on their Privacy Not Included article from Edward J. Markey, United States Senator on November 30, 2023.  If still interested, read about it here:

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/us-senator-markey-has-some-serious-questions-for-car-companies/

I'll be following this and hopefully this will enact some responses from those companies that were sent the mail from Senator Markey.

GWGeorge007 wrote:

Hey there,

I know that this isn't really the right place for this particular posting, but I thought I would post it anyway.  It deserves to be read.

I use Firefox almost exclusively, and I do belong to their email service where once in a while they send out something interesting.


 

George

Proud member of the Old Farts Association

mikey
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GWGeorge007 wrote: Mozilla /

GWGeorge007 wrote:

Mozilla / Firefox finally got a response from the U.S Government on their Privacy Not Included article from Edward J. Markey, United States Senator on November 30, 2023.  If still interested, read about it here:

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/us-senator-markey-has-some-serious-questions-for-car-companies/

I'll be following this and hopefully this will enact some responses from those companies that were sent the mail from Senator Markey.

GWGeorge007 wrote:

Hey there,

I know that this isn't really the right place for this particular posting, but I thought I would post it anyway.  It deserves to be read.

I use Firefox almost exclusively, and I do belong to their email service where once in a while they send out something interesting.

 

Let's hope he gets some answers

GWGeorge007
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I received today a follow up

I received today a follow up email indicating that Mozilla/Firefox has made great strides in affecting how the car companies are using our private details for exploit.


Last year, Mozilla made it official – car companies are the worst category of products we have *ever* reviewed for privacy. Our research exposed how car companies use a web of in-car sensors, microphones, cameras, apps and other internet connected devices to make a full profile of your life… and then predictably, some companies even sell this information for profit.

Since this investigation, car companies have been under immense pressure – from consumers, lawmakers, journalists and our movement. You’ve supported this campaign by signing Mozilla’s petition, so I wanted to share a quick summary of what we’ve achieved so far:

  • Toyota and Lexus now grant all U.S. consumers the right to delete their personal data.
  • General Motors has agreed to stop sharing driving data to particular data brokers who then sell that data to car insurance companies to justify raising rates
  • The U.S. Government has announced an inquiry into connected cars' privacy, due to national security concerns.
  • A major U.S. regulatory body has proposed expanding existing regulations to include cars, making it easier to help domestic violence victims when their abuser uses their car as a way to stalk them.
  • Two U.S. Senators are calling on the Federal Trade Commission to investigate car companies for sharing drivers’ personal data with law enforcement without a warrant.
  • The U.S. Federal Trade Commission has released a firm warning to car companies, saying they will take action against any illegal collection, use or disclosure of personal information.
  • EU lawmakers have used Mozilla’s research to flag the lack of privacy protections for drivers in the European Commission on three occasions.
  • The Privacy Commissioner in Australia opened an inquiry saying Australia's privacy laws aren't equipped to deal with what cars do.

These victories show our movement’s ability to have an impact, and they were made possible by generous donations from people who want to hold companies accountable for their data practices. Since you signed the petition for this campaign – thank you! – we hope you will take the next step today by contributing to protect people’s privacy and hold irresponsible companies accountable.


 

Original post:


GWGeorge007 wrote:

Mozilla / Firefox finally got a response from the U.S Government on their Privacy Not Included article from Edward J. Markey, United States Senator on November 30, 2023.  If still interested, read about it here:

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/us-senator-markey-has-some-serious-questions-for-car-companies/

I'll be following this and hopefully this will enact some responses from those companies that were sent the mail from Senator Markey.

GWGeorge007 wrote:

Hey there,

I know that this isn't really the right place for this particular posting, but I thought I would post it anyway.  It deserves to be read.

I use Firefox almost exclusively, and I do belong to their email service where once in a while they send out something interesting.


 

George

Proud member of the Old Farts Association

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