TLPTP Wildlife Edition

Gary Charpentier
Gary Charpentier
Joined: 13 Jun 06
Posts: 2060
Credit: 106465528
RAC: 57151

That "non-immunisers" applies

That "non-immunisers" applies to learning how to cross the road, spot danger, and many other things.

Sir Rodney Ffing
Sir Rodney Ffing
Joined: 8 Nov 15
Posts: 165
Credit: 473102
RAC: 0

Whether nature or nurture,

Whether nature or nurture, one's experience of allergies is that they do not occur to oneself, but to others. Commiserations to the latter is all I can offer. A careless moment with an Androctonus mauretanicus however, has rendered one below usual par for this time of year.

MAGIC Quantum Mechanic
MAGIC Quantum M...
Joined: 18 Jan 05
Posts: 1886
Credit: 1410084536
RAC: 1176365

BTW Dr. Hewson...... I have

BTW Dr. Hewson......

I have been reading about Cas9 (CRISPR associated protein 9) and was wondering what you think about using the CRISP (Clustered Regularly Interspaced Short Palindromic Repeats)

Since being 60 years old now I need to figure out the way to live another 500+ years Cool

 

Kavanagh
Kavanagh
Joined: 29 Oct 06
Posts: 1858
Credit: 103018952
RAC: 12365

Sir Rodney, I hope you

Sir Rodney, I hope you remember to shake out your boots before donning. Those scorpions are nasty.

Richard

Mike Hewson
Mike Hewson
Moderator
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 6588
Credit: 317357366
RAC: 368575

Pit groupie :.... who

NEWSFLASH : Groupie in the racing pits 

car_polish.jpg

.... volunteers to polish the car, causes front to fall off :-)

NB That beastie is a twin turbo V8

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

Mike Hewson
Mike Hewson
Moderator
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 6588
Credit: 317357366
RAC: 368575

Q8 : What is the common name

guess_animal.jpg

Q8 : What is the common name of this beast ?

Q9 : Where would I go to look at one ?

Q10 : What is it's poncy name ?

Q11 : To what or whom is it dangerous to ?

Q12 : What name does he go by to his best friends ?

Q13 : What is his/her ( extra points if you know the gender ) favorite meal ?

Q14 : What would Einstein have said if he met one ?

So far Mod Gary is winning .... :-0

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

Mike Hewson
Mike Hewson
Moderator
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 6588
Credit: 317357366
RAC: 368575

MAGIC Quantum Mechanic

MAGIC Quantum Mechanic wrote:

BTW Dr. Hewson......

I have been reading about Cas9 (CRISPR associated protein 9) and was wondering what you think about using the CRISP (Clustered Regularly Interspaced Short Palindromic Repeats)

Since being 60 years old now I need to figure out the way to live another 500+ years Cool

 

Hi Magic !

Well I never heard of that. Two points immediately come to mind :

- reactions in compartments : what makes life work is not just biochemistry, but reactions in the right compartments. The smallest eukaryotic compartments are organelles within cells, that in turn are typically clumped into organs. The classic lipid bilayer is the usual wall that defines boundaries. The activated, or suppressed, expression of DNA in one compartment may be useful, but in another toxic/pathogenic. So whatever fancy gene clipping is performed in the lab is far from targeted therapy in a living person.

- side effects of DNA polymerase : this enzyme ( many forms actually ) is responsible for copying DNA. One can think of viruses and ( so-called ) junk DNA as a consequence of thermodynamics emboldened by Murphy's Law. Essentially if it can happen then eventually it will. In this situation the enzyme will reproduce anything that fits it's reactivity profile. Think of it as the village idiot that just randomly sticks whatever sheets of paper are lying around into the village photocopier. Multiply that by however many villages there are in an entire animal. If you like ( to be even more anthropocentric ) it doesn't care what it feeds in or spits out as long as the molecules fit it's active locus. Interestingly mammalian DNA polymerase has an error rate of about one per billion bases. So the adenine-cytosine matching, and the guanine-thymine matching sometimes slips a cog ( mismatch ). This gives rise to variation that gives impetus to a very gentle evolutionary drift of sequences. My question is what drift would occur in a single animal of lifetime the order of centuries ?

Probably a good premise for a SiFi novel ( rushes off to word processor ) meaning ultimately 'what is me/you'. Certainly not a specifically identifiable set of molecules and atoms, the interchange with our environment is quite vigorous, but a structure with a good deal of fungibility in its hidden makeup. 

{ FWIW : this is one excellent reason why the so called Schrodinger's Cat* debate is bollocks. There are an infinitude of ways to be alive, and that number to the aleph-zero ( way more ) of being dead. In reality there is no exclusively two-state cat to describe or even discuss. See quantum decoherence. }

Having just recently hit 58 Sun-laps myself I sense your angst, but alas I don't think there are any magic bullets forthcoming. More likely a good deal of dropped spanners. Probably zombies. Oh, wait they're already here [ & voting ] ..... :-))

Cheers, Mike.

* Initially a joke proposition for consumption by colleagues. The modern version is not the original. Schrodinger posed it in rhetorical fashion. It did bring out the right line of thinking : how does quantum mechanics impinge upon our thinking of macroscopic objects ? The short answer is that at human, or cat, scale atoms may be classically modelled or quantum modelled. Incredibly large numbers make both solutions converge. A dead cat will still bounce regardless ..... :-))

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

Winterknight
Winterknight
Joined: 4 Jun 05
Posts: 1449
Credit: 376554825
RAC: 141813

My question is what drift

My question is what drift would occur in a single animal of lifetime the order of centuries ?

 

Came across this some time ago, They used fruit flies.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170809140249.htm

mikey
mikey
Joined: 22 Jan 05
Posts: 12687
Credit: 1839093411
RAC: 3754

MAGIC Quantum Mechanic

MAGIC Quantum Mechanic wrote:

BTW Dr. Hewson......

I have been reading about Cas9 (CRISPR associated protein 9) and was wondering what you think about using the CRISP (Clustered Regularly Interspaced Short Palindromic Repeats)

Since being 60 years old now I need to figure out the way to live another 500+ years Cool 

So far China has been using for over 15 years to repair mistakes that have caused untold numbers of death from fairly common diseases, the rest of the world is now catching up, although the USA will be far behind as the FDA has to evaluate it until they are sure they can't be sued because they missed something...causing untold numbers of people to look elsewhere or die while waiting! China has not said if they have tested life extending things yet, but 60 Minutes did a story on it a week or so ago that talked about how hard it can be to get it right so you don't 'repair' the wrong gene sequence.

Dr Mike that animal looks like a Tasmanian Devil and could be extinct but recent pictures MAY show that some may have survived.

RandyC
RandyC
Joined: 18 Jan 05
Posts: 6608
Credit: 111139797
RAC: 0

mikey wrote:Dr Mike that

mikey wrote:
Dr Mike that animal looks like a Tasmanian Devil and could be extinct but recent pictures MAY show that some may have survived.

No Mikey, not a Tasmanian Devil, it would be a Tasmanian Tiger...a Thylacine. It is supposedly extinct.

@Dr. Mike: what is a Poncy Name?

Last known living Tasmanian Tiger was named Benjamin (according to Wiki); may he rest in peace.

Seti Classic Final Total: 11446 WU.

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.