None of your 'advice' given in this thread is helpful, suggesting that to extract a little more performance from a given card is achieved by installing an unofficial bios or manually modifying the bios is totally irresponsible. Doing such things may be your fun but it is not good advice for the novice or faint hearted, unless you are personally going to guarantee and replace the failed hardware for every participate gullible enough to take your word as read. A quick look at the various recent incarnations of your host with the GTX670 show that whatever you are doing with your 'improvements' the card is still performing below average...
This is in no way a personal attack on you or your ideas and I mean no disrespect. I just want to point out to the wider community that your approach is both unnecessary and DANGEROUS!
There are plenty of overclocking tools out there such as NVidia inspector or MSI afterburner that will allow gradual overclocking without permanent irreversible changes, the most that can happen with these tools is that you may crash the system or junk some work units. The key point is that you get to go back to default settings easily.
Going the bios mod/hack route, if it goes wrong you may be asking how much a new card is but the answer is usually that if you have to ask you can't afford it ;-)
@The OP
NVidia Inspector is the weapon of choice for Kepler and above I believe. Search Guru3d for the download. I don't have any recent experience but plenty of folk on the boards have and I'm sure someone will be along to steer you right soon.
I've found that between my projects;MW@H,E@H and SETI@Home, that Einstein best responds to overclocking of the memory. I've found that overclocking the video core really doesn't show much scaled improvement. My tool of choice is Nvidia Inspector which makes it easy to push the cards back to their stock P0 clock speeds. Nvidia in their wisdom decided to make their cards run at P2 timings when doing distributed computing. If the cards run as designed at P0 timings for gaming, (their intended purpose), they should have no issues running P0 timings when doing math also. Currently running my two 970s at 3600 Mhz memory with a mild +100 overclock via Nvidia Inspector and at normal P0 timings for the cores. The video cores normally run at their maximum GPU Boost anyway since they have plenty of TDP headroom. Another good tool for looking at the card loading is GPUZ.
Another good tool for looking at the card loading is GPUZ.
Yeah along with EVGA's Precision X I use GPU-Z just to compare the temp. to make sure they say the same thing.
I use Precision X for voltage and fan speed depending on the room temp and test a card at first to see how it runs the best here and then just mainly to adjust the fan speed if I need to.
They are all happy as long as the temp is lower 60's C but I have a 560Ti that has been running upper 70's up to 83C 24/7 and it is having no problem being OC'd
Mine are all OC'd or SC'd and I have had them all running 24/7 over the 3 year warranty......so far so good.
I use Precision X for voltage and fan speed depending on the room temp and test a card at first to see how it runs the best here and then just mainly to adjust the fan speed if I need to.
Currently enjoying the custom 6 pt. fan profiles for the video cards that the latest SIV64 app allows me to use on the Nvidia cards. I used to use the program's target set temperature point that it provided but find that the new mechanism allows for similar <65 degrees C. temps at much lower fan speeds and noise output.
I have GTX750Ti factory over clocked black sniper cards. The fact that they are "factory" over clocked means much to me. It means that the manufacturers of those cards have selected the better ones from their production line, and tested them to be stable at higher than stock speeds. It therefore makes no sense for enthusiastic amateurs to try to tweak them even further.
Four points stand out to me
1. Over clocking cards will invalidate the warranty
2. Over clocking cards will significantly reduce the MTBF
2. Over clocking cards will increase the RAC fairly minimally
4. Credit hounds would be better off getting another card to add to their collection
But it's their money and their wallet. Some people justify it by wanting to do the tweaking as a personal challenge, fine but smug can cost. Others just have to be up in the league tables, the science that they are supposed to be crunching for comes second.
For the more savvy, there are certain tweaks that can be made in the project software files settings that can produce much more performance gains without any extra loading.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
Chris,
I pondered for quite a while before deciding to respond.
I couldn't decide if you just didn't understand how offensive and opinionated your 'advice' would sound. I wondered if it was just intended as a joke. I wondered if you were deliberately posting flame-bait. I came quite close to removing it outright and would have done so if I thought you had malicious intent. I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt.
I agree pretty much with what Magic has said but I want this to be an end to the matter. Your four points are pretty much all wrong and if you want chapter and verse, that can be done - but in private. My preferred option if you sincerely hold those views is that we politely agree to disagree and permanently end the matter right now. If anybody decides to respond (or counter respond) in an aggressive manner, I'll remove the lot.
The thing I found most offensive was not the incorrect 'points' but rather the derogatory statements you made about 'credit hounds', 'more money than sense', 'smugness' and lack of 'savvy' of people who tweak clock speed. We don't need these sorts of insults and I'm not prepared to tolerate them.
@Rantanplan None of your
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@Rantanplan
None of your 'advice' given in this thread is helpful, suggesting that to extract a little more performance from a given card is achieved by installing an unofficial bios or manually modifying the bios is totally irresponsible. Doing such things may be your fun but it is not good advice for the novice or faint hearted, unless you are personally going to guarantee and replace the failed hardware for every participate gullible enough to take your word as read. A quick look at the various recent incarnations of your host with the GTX670 show that whatever you are doing with your 'improvements' the card is still performing below average...
This is in no way a personal attack on you or your ideas and I mean no disrespect. I just want to point out to the wider community that your approach is both unnecessary and DANGEROUS!
There are plenty of overclocking tools out there such as NVidia inspector or MSI afterburner that will allow gradual overclocking without permanent irreversible changes, the most that can happen with these tools is that you may crash the system or junk some work units. The key point is that you get to go back to default settings easily.
Going the bios mod/hack route, if it goes wrong you may be asking how much a new card is but the answer is usually that if you have to ask you can't afford it ;-)
@The OP
NVidia Inspector is the weapon of choice for Kepler and above I believe. Search Guru3d for the download. I don't have any recent experience but plenty of folk on the boards have and I'm sure someone will be along to steer you right soon.
Best of luck!
I use
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I use http://www.evga.com/precision/ on all of mine.
I've found that between my
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I've found that between my projects;MW@H,E@H and SETI@Home, that Einstein best responds to overclocking of the memory. I've found that overclocking the video core really doesn't show much scaled improvement. My tool of choice is Nvidia Inspector which makes it easy to push the cards back to their stock P0 clock speeds. Nvidia in their wisdom decided to make their cards run at P2 timings when doing distributed computing. If the cards run as designed at P0 timings for gaming, (their intended purpose), they should have no issues running P0 timings when doing math also. Currently running my two 970s at 3600 Mhz memory with a mild +100 overclock via Nvidia Inspector and at normal P0 timings for the cores. The video cores normally run at their maximum GPU Boost anyway since they have plenty of TDP headroom. Another good tool for looking at the card loading is GPUZ.
RE: Another good tool for
)
Yeah along with EVGA's Precision X I use GPU-Z just to compare the temp. to make sure they say the same thing.
I use Precision X for voltage and fan speed depending on the room temp and test a card at first to see how it runs the best here and then just mainly to adjust the fan speed if I need to.
They are all happy as long as the temp is lower 60's C but I have a 560Ti that has been running upper 70's up to 83C 24/7 and it is having no problem being OC'd
Mine are all OC'd or SC'd and I have had them all running 24/7 over the 3 year warranty......so far so good.
RE: I use Precision X for
)
Currently enjoying the custom 6 pt. fan profiles for the video cards that the latest SIV64 app allows me to use on the Nvidia cards. I used to use the program's target set temperature point that it provided but find that the new mechanism allows for similar <65 degrees C. temps at much lower fan speeds and noise output.
I have GTX750Ti factory over
)
I have GTX750Ti factory over clocked black sniper cards. The fact that they are "factory" over clocked means much to me. It means that the manufacturers of those cards have selected the better ones from their production line, and tested them to be stable at higher than stock speeds. It therefore makes no sense for enthusiastic amateurs to try to tweak them even further.
Four points stand out to me
1. Over clocking cards will invalidate the warranty
2. Over clocking cards will significantly reduce the MTBF
2. Over clocking cards will increase the RAC fairly minimally
4. Credit hounds would be better off getting another card to add to their collection
But it's their money and their wallet. Some people justify it by wanting to do the tweaking as a personal challenge, fine but smug can cost. Others just have to be up in the league tables, the science that they are supposed to be crunching for comes second.
For the more savvy, there are certain tweaks that can be made in the project software files settings that can produce much more performance gains without any extra loading.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
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Edit:
RE: Four points stand out
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Chris,
I pondered for quite a while before deciding to respond.
I couldn't decide if you just didn't understand how offensive and opinionated your 'advice' would sound. I wondered if it was just intended as a joke. I wondered if you were deliberately posting flame-bait. I came quite close to removing it outright and would have done so if I thought you had malicious intent. I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt.
I agree pretty much with what Magic has said but I want this to be an end to the matter. Your four points are pretty much all wrong and if you want chapter and verse, that can be done - but in private. My preferred option if you sincerely hold those views is that we politely agree to disagree and permanently end the matter right now. If anybody decides to respond (or counter respond) in an aggressive manner, I'll remove the lot.
The thing I found most offensive was not the incorrect 'points' but rather the derogatory statements you made about 'credit hounds', 'more money than sense', 'smugness' and lack of 'savvy' of people who tweak clock speed. We don't need these sorts of insults and I'm not prepared to tolerate them.
Cheers,
Gary.
(sorry about that
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(sorry about that Gary......we were both typing at the same time )
I will not post here again.
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I will not post here again.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now