Yep, I often dual-boot my boxes, too (meaning I'm running both Windows and Linux on them). It's usually no problem to set up, just install Windows first, then Linux, and the bootloader will take care of the rest.
As for the OS choice... I'm not really a fan of SuSE. Okay, it's supposed to be good for beginners, but in this case that also includes it's a bit more difficult to change to another distro. Besides, I fear that SuSE is not really "free" any more after Novell's deal with Microsoft.
As I said, maybe you should try KUbuntu. It's based on Debian, but it already has lots of useful stuff pre-installed and most of the configuration done, plus a really nice GUI.
This is of course just my personal preference and experience. If you're not sure, just get a live-cd (a CD you can boot the OS from directly) from each distro you might want to try and play around with them a bit until you know which one you prefer.
Well, I cannot claim to be a beginner since I started working with UNIX in 1981. I like SuSE because patches are frequent. It is also very stable and lets me compile things like Mplayer and its plugins, which allow me to see RealPlayer, WindowsMedia and Quicktime streams from NASA. I like NASA and astronomy.
Tullio
I think you misunderstood me ;-) I didn't want to say (or imply) you were a beginner. But nevermorestr is, if I understood him correctly, and I just wanted to say the distro would indeed be suitable for him to start with. Sorry if it came across differently.
I think you misunderstood me ;-) I didn't want to say (or imply) you were a beginner. But nevermorestr is, if I understood him correctly, and I just wanted to say the distro would indeed be suitable for him to start with. Sorry if it came across differently.
I presume that this thread is where one is "supposed" to contact the people who run this project?
Well you can have our 4 cents worth right now. What the hell do you guys think you are playing at? No way are we, or anyone else going to sign up for a project, however science worthy, that puts out untested beta stuff as standard crunching fodder. Weve got machines that haven't reported for up to a week, and thats not acceptable.
On SETI our team averaged an RAC of ~4000, and clocked up over a million, not to be sniffed at. Since signing up for Einstein we've got an RAC of 600 after a fortnight and a total of 11,000.
We'll give you 10 days to get your act together or we're off, lock stock and barrel, elsewhere.
I presume that this thread is where one is "supposed" to contact the people who run this project?
Well you can have our 4 cents worth right now. What the hell do you guys think you are playing at? No way are we, or anyone else going to sign up for a project, however science worthy, that puts out untested beta stuff as standard crunching fodder. Weve got machines that haven't reported for up to a week, and thats not acceptable.
On SETI our team averaged an RAC of ~4000, and clocked up over a million, not to be sniffed at. Since signing up for Einstein we've got an RAC of 600 after a fortnight and a total of 11,000.
We'll give you 10 days to get your act together or we're off, lock stock and barrel, elsewhere.
For and on behalf of BT Retired Club
Calm down. All the cursing and anger doesn't help you get your message across. If anything it makes me want to disregard your message.
Did somebody hijack your account or your evil twin is posting this?
You come into this thread sounding like the project blind sided you with a 2X4, when you have been fully aware S5R2 is essentially a Beta run for S5R3. You posted in the S5R2 thread, which lead off with this:
"However, with our present analysis tool, the computation time needed grows to the power of six over the amount of data. It's obvious that we need something more clever to deal with a larger amount of data, so we developed a new program which we call "Hierarchical Search". The basic idea is to first scan the parameter space with a coarse "grid" and then only take a closer look at the areas that have been detected as interesting, in a "follow-up stage". The current code is designed to do only the first stage, it had not been decided yet if we will do a follow-up stage on Einstein@Home as well or e.g. on LSC clusters.
The application we'll use for this run is all new and has never been used before. The algorithm used in the old App is still a part of the new one, and other parts have also been used before, but they have never been used in the present combination, and in particular not in a distributed computing project of that scale. We expect some problems to arise from this."
It might not have come right out and said *****BETA AHEAD*****, but I think even would be able to read between the lines here.
Yeah, I can only agree with Ageless and Alinator here. This run was announced as "beta-like" by the project staff, so we more or less knew what we were in for. And besides, every single project has issues occasionally. IMO Einstein has less of them than most. Btw, I've been able to get a very nice amount of credit (considering my hardware) over the past weeks, so it can't be THAT bad with "never getting any credit". Not that I care overmuch. I don't know how you feel, but I really feel the excitement of being part of this kind of scientific project. Call me naive or nerdy if you have to, I can live with that. It's certainly more satisfying then being on a project for the credit.
RE: Yep, I often dual-boot
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Well, I cannot claim to be a beginner since I started working with UNIX in 1981. I like SuSE because patches are frequent. It is also very stable and lets me compile things like Mplayer and its plugins, which allow me to see RealPlayer, WindowsMedia and Quicktime streams from NASA. I like NASA and astronomy.
Tullio
I think you misunderstood me
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I think you misunderstood me ;-) I didn't want to say (or imply) you were a beginner. But nevermorestr is, if I understood him correctly, and I just wanted to say the distro would indeed be suitable for him to start with. Sorry if it came across differently.
RE: I think you
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No problem, Annika.
Tullio
tullio and Annika, thank you.
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tullio and Annika, thank you.
I presume that this thread is
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I presume that this thread is where one is "supposed" to contact the people who run this project?
Well you can have our 4 cents worth right now. What the hell do you guys think you are playing at? No way are we, or anyone else going to sign up for a project, however science worthy, that puts out untested beta stuff as standard crunching fodder. Weve got machines that haven't reported for up to a week, and thats not acceptable.
On SETI our team averaged an RAC of ~4000, and clocked up over a million, not to be sniffed at. Since signing up for Einstein we've got an RAC of 600 after a fortnight and a total of 11,000.
We'll give you 10 days to get your act together or we're off, lock stock and barrel, elsewhere.
For and on behalf of BT Retired Club
Mrs Miggins - A lady of uncommon refinement
RE: I presume that this
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Calm down. All the cursing and anger doesn't help you get your message across. If anything it makes me want to disregard your message.
@ B_M_3: HUH??!! Did
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@ B_M_3:
HUH??!!
Did somebody hijack your account or your evil twin is posting this?
You come into this thread sounding like the project blind sided you with a 2X4, when you have been fully aware S5R2 is essentially a Beta run for S5R3. You posted in the S5R2 thread, which lead off with this:
"However, with our present analysis tool, the computation time needed grows to the power of six over the amount of data. It's obvious that we need something more clever to deal with a larger amount of data, so we developed a new program which we call "Hierarchical Search". The basic idea is to first scan the parameter space with a coarse "grid" and then only take a closer look at the areas that have been detected as interesting, in a "follow-up stage". The current code is designed to do only the first stage, it had not been decided yet if we will do a follow-up stage on Einstein@Home as well or e.g. on LSC clusters.
The application we'll use for this run is all new and has never been used before. The algorithm used in the old App is still a part of the new one, and other parts have also been used before, but they have never been used in the present combination, and in particular not in a distributed computing project of that scale. We expect some problems to arise from this."
It might not have come right out and said *****BETA AHEAD*****, but I think even would be able to read between the lines here.
Alinator
RE: We'll give you 10 days
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At least in 10 days time Seti is probably back up & running and you can go crunch back there...
If you were a true Boinc Master you'd know by now this world doesn't revolve around credits and RAC alone.
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DOHHH!!! That's right, I forgot! SAH never has any performance or credit issues. ;-)
Alinator
Yeah, I can only agree with
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Yeah, I can only agree with Ageless and Alinator here. This run was announced as "beta-like" by the project staff, so we more or less knew what we were in for. And besides, every single project has issues occasionally. IMO Einstein has less of them than most. Btw, I've been able to get a very nice amount of credit (considering my hardware) over the past weeks, so it can't be THAT bad with "never getting any credit". Not that I care overmuch. I don't know how you feel, but I really feel the excitement of being part of this kind of scientific project. Call me naive or nerdy if you have to, I can live with that. It's certainly more satisfying then being on a project for the credit.