Information about the new S5 workunits

RandyC
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RE: The crediting system

Message 37707 in response to message 37706

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The crediting system is simple. The crediting is determined on how many FLOPs your system does. Since each unit given to 2 computers is exactly the same, it gets the same credit, cause the FLOPs will be the same. I think that is very simple, and everyone gets fair credit.

That's how it works at SETI.

Einstein credits are pre-determined by the Server. I don't know what algorithm they use for that though.

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RE: RE: The crediting

Message 37708 in response to message 37707

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The crediting system is simple. The crediting is determined on how many FLOPs your system does. Since each unit given to 2 computers is exactly the same, it gets the same credit, cause the FLOPs will be the same. I think that is very simple, and everyone gets fair credit.

That's how it works at SETI.

Einstein credits are pre-determined by the Server. I don't know what algorithm they use for that though.


If I understood the readings, yes it is predetermind from the server side, but they already precounted the flops, and that's why they assign the numbers.

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RE: RE: RE: The

Message 37709 in response to message 37708

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The crediting system is simple. The crediting is determined on how many FLOPs your system does. Since each unit given to 2 computers is exactly the same, it gets the same credit, cause the FLOPs will be the same. I think that is very simple, and everyone gets fair credit.

That's how it works at SETI.

Einstein credits are pre-determined by the Server. I don't know what algorithm they use for that though.


If I understood the readings, yes it is predetermind from the server side, but they already precounted the flops, and that's why they assign the numbers.

Doesn't sound logical to me. If you pre-count the flops, then you must be crunching it at the same time (otherwise how do you know you're done?).

They may have some algorithm that guestimates the flops, but I doubt they pre-count them.

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I have a quick question

Message 37710 in response to message 37709

I have a quick question regarding the new app...

Is there a quick way to tell that a computer's downloaded it?

I'm doubtful that my machine has downloaded it..

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Richard Haselgrove
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RE: I have a quick question

Message 37711 in response to message 37710

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I have a quick question regarding the new app...

Is there a quick way to tell that a computer's downloaded it?

I'm doubtful that my machine has downloaded it..


Keep an eye on the 'Work' tab in BOINC manager.

Look at the 'Application' column - make sure it's wide enough to show the version number at the end.

Wait till Einstein downloads the next workunit. You should see '4.24' at the end of the application name.

Then have a look at the 'Messages' tab.

You should see entries for start/finish download of the .exe and the .pdb files.

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RE: I have a quick question

Message 37712 in response to message 37710

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I have a quick question regarding the new app...

Is there a quick way to tell that a computer's downloaded it?

I'm doubtful that my machine has downloaded it..


The version gets bound at download time--you can see this in client_state.xml if you like.

You downloaded a bunch of results on August 9, before the new ap was available. If I understand how this works, those are already labelled to be processed by 4.02. When you download new results, they'll get tagged as 4.24, and before your host tries to process them it will download the ap.

Sometimes a big queue is a disadvantage.

If I got this wrong, please correct me.

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RE: RE: I have a quick

Message 37713 in response to message 37712

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Quote:

I have a quick question regarding the new app...

Is there a quick way to tell that a computer's downloaded it?

I'm doubtful that my machine has downloaded it..


The version gets bound at download time--you can see this in client_state.xml if you like.

You downloaded a bunch of results on August 9, before the new ap was available. If I understand how this works, those are already labelled to be processed by 4.02. When you download new results, they'll get tagged as 4.24, and before your host tries to process them it will download the ap.

Sometimes a big queue is a disadvantage.

If I got this wrong, please correct me.

Thanks for the answers, and yes a big queue can be a disadvantage at times :(

All my WU's are running on the 4.02 app so it looks like I'll have to wait a while to get the new one...

My Einstein debt is way into the negative...

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Siegfried Niklas
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RE: I have a quick question

Message 37714 in response to message 37710

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I have a quick question regarding the new app...

Is there a quick way to tell that a computer's downloaded it?

I'm doubtful that my machine has downloaded it..

Download the "einstein_S5R1_4.24_windows_intelx86.zip" from here,

Beta Test Page

and follow this description.

Switching Apps half way trough a result

Siegfried Niklas
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RE: RE: I have a quick

Message 37715 in response to message 37714

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Quote:

I have a quick question regarding the new app...

Is there a quick way to tell that a computer's downloaded it?

I'm doubtful that my machine has downloaded it..

Download the "einstein_S5R1_4.24_windows_intelx86.zip" from here,

Beta Test Page

and follow this description.

Switching Apps half way trough a result

Add:
Do not use the "app_info.xml". (only used in Beta Testing phase)

Stefan
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RE: RE: RE: I have a

Message 37716 in response to message 37715

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I have a quick question regarding the new app...

Is there a quick way to tell that a computer's downloaded it?

I'm doubtful that my machine has downloaded it..

Download the "einstein_S5R1_4.24_windows_intelx86.zip" from here,

Beta Test Page

and follow this description.

Switching Apps half way trough a result

Add:
Do not use the "app_info.xml". (only used in Beta Testing phase)

Thanks, but I'm down to only one WU now, so I figure its too much work to manually install it :)

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