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Milan
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Hi, I am new at forum so i

Hi,

I am new at forum so i am sorry if i post question on wrong topic.

I used two computers for crunching but that was low power cheap cpu's (planing to use them, in future just need more internet connection cables).

I have buy Ryzen  1600AF cpu mostly because of this project and for some gaming but planning to take care of this computer, upgrading and to keep it for a longer time of period. Cooler used for cpu is Wraith stealth cheapest one which came with box so i don't want to push my cpu to upper limit's. Also i have rx 550 2gb sapphire pulse with problematic drivers, fan on/off stuff and i don't want to push gpu either before i buy some better gpu when prices back to normal.

I am not pro at computing, just regular lite gaming guy who want to give a little contribute to science and i don't fully understand setup for crunching so if anyone have some advice how to set things for lowest temperatures on cpu and gpu posible. Or should i just go to minimum presets?

Tom M
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Milan wrote: Hi, I am new

Milan wrote:

Hi,

I am new at forum so i am sorry if i post question on wrong topic.

I used two computers for crunching but that was low power cheap cpu's (planing to use them, in future just need more internet connection cables).

I have buy Ryzen  1600AF cpu mostly because of this project and for some gaming but planning to take care of this computer, upgrading and to keep it for a longer time of period. Cooler used for cpu is Wraith stealth cheapest one which came with box so i don't want to push my cpu to upper limit's. Also i have rx 550 2gb sapphire pulse with problematic drivers, fan on/off stuff and i don't want to push gpu either before i buy some better gpu when prices back to normal.

I am not pro at computing, just regular lite gaming guy who want to give a little contribute to science and i don't fully understand setup for crunching so if anyone have some advice how to set things for lowest temperatures on cpu and gpu posible. Or should i just go to minimum presets?

This is as good a thread as any unless you want to start one specific to your questions.

Many late model GPUs fans cycle on and off instead of running continuously.  So it is possible your gpu is fine.

However, since it has a very small amount of ram you need to limit it to running Gamma-Ray (#1) gpu tasks which will run without a problem in that small of gpu memory.

There are a number of ways to "limit" your cpu.  It is possible that your motherboard bios setup has "turbo boost" and/or Precision Boost Overdrive.  If you disable both of these the cpu will run about baseline and probably be as cool as you are likely to get them.

Since you are running Windows on that box you can try using Ryzen Master to throttle your cpu instead of the bios settings.

I also recommend "Gpu-Z" as a very good way to keep track of your gpu.

Welcome to Boinc and to Einstein@Home.

If something is not clear reply so we can see if we can help.

Tom M

 

 

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Gary Roberts
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Milan wrote:... i don't want

Milan wrote:
... i don't want to push my cpu to upper limit's. Also i have rx 550 2gb sapphire pulse with problematic drivers, fan on/off stuff and i don't want to push gpu either ...

Hi Milan, welcome to the Einstein forums.

The best way to keep your CPU cool is to not use it for CPU crunching at all.  That way, there would just be very low use in support of the GPU task.  If you wanted to still run some CPU work, the best thing to do would be to use the BOINC compute preference for usage limits which says, "Use at most ___% of the CPUs".  You can set this either on the Website or locally in BOINC Manager (Advanced view).  Local settings override website settings.  If the % value you choose results in a fraction of a core, BOINC will use the whole core.  So, for a 6 core CPU, a setting of 20% (1.2 cores) should allow 2 CPU tasks to run.

For the GPU, you either use it or you don't.  Since GPU tasks give higher work output in shorter time, my personal preference for limiting overall heat is to just run the GPU (no CPU tasks at all).

Both your existing GPUs (RX 550 and the 1GB CapeVerde 7700 series) can crunch the Gamma Ray Pulsar (GRP) GPU tasks quite successfully.  The old 1GB unit shows a validated GRP task in just 1640 secs - that's over 50 tasks per day.  Pretty good for such an old system.

The best advice is probably to run just the GRP GPU tasks on both systems.  The RX 550 will be a lot faster and should run fairly cool anyway.  It uses less power than the 7700 series card.  If the temps are OK, you could consider allowing a small number of GRP CPU tasks (just on the Ryzen) for a bit more output.

Cheers,
Gary.

Tom M
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I actually saw a Amd FX cpu

I actually saw a Amd FX cpu join the top 50 list.  I haven't seen that cpu in years....

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And an Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T too.

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Tom M

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tullio
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I am running GW CPU tasks on

I am running GW CPU tasks on a Linux Virtual Machine hosted on a Windows 10 PC. The OS is SuSE Tumbleweed, a development OS updated very  frequently, so I have to reboot it every time. The kernel is now 5.11.15. I have done and validated 16 tasks, plus other 13 waiting for validation, no error. I should have gotten 16000 credits, instead I see in My computers list I got 25000. How come?

Tullio

Tom M
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The list of validated tasks

The list of validated tasks may have tasks that are no longer displayed but the non-displayed tasks still count towards your total.

Tom M

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tullio wrote:I have done and

tullio wrote:
I have done and validated 16 tasks, plus other 13 waiting for validation, no error. I should have gotten 16000 credits, instead I see in My computers list I got 25000. How come?

The task list you are looking at does not keep tasks on display forever.  As you got credit as long ago as April 17 on this machine, the reason for the "discrepancy" you observe is most likely just retired tasks.  In other words, at the time you wrote the note, you in fact had done more than 16 tasks.

 

[edit: Tom M got a post in while I was typing]

tullio
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My latest GW task was

My latest GW task was validated with a quorum of one. Does this mean that my results are sound?

Tullio

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Since Bernd has stated that

Since Bernd has stated that this is a test run that is not using 'real' data, they presumably 'know' already what your machine is supposed to find without needing confirmation.

Maybe if your result had been a bit different from what had been expected, an extra task might have been sent to someone else to get data on how variable the answers from different machines might be.  Maybe they are sending the same data to a bunch of different machines in the first place so a quorum of one would be all that was needed.

Your result must have been what was expected :-).

Cheers,
Gary.

Milan
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Thanks for advices. I was

Thanks for advices. I was waiting for post to be verified from moderator and i was waiting on a first page :)

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