I have a Completed (100%) Einstein Task which will not Upload, even when I do a Manual Update. It shows Progress as 100% but shows Status as 'Waiting To Run'
instead of Completed. And it shows ----- (ie Zero) in the Estimated Time Remaining Column.
I have tried Restarts, Shutdowns, Manual Updates, Suspending & Resuming ...
.. Nothing Works.
Any Suggestions?
UPDATE #1: Well, thanks for everyones Input/Sugesstions. I have Replied to each of you (I think).
I'm now going to SUSPEND ALL OTHER PROJECTS, and Try to get The Einstein Task to Restart, assuming that (even though it appears to be 100% Complete) it may Not Actually Be Finished, and hopefull it will Restart and Finish and Upload.
I have a Completed (100%) Einstein Task which will not Upload, even when I do a Manual Update. It shows Progress as 100% but shows Status as 'Waiting To Run'
instead of Completed. And it shows ----- (ie Zero) in the Estimated Time Remaining Column.
I have tried Restarts, Shutdowns, Manual Updates, Suspending & Resuming ...
.. Nothing Works.
Any Suggestions?
UPDATE #1: Well, thanks for everyones Input/Sugesstions. I have Replied to each of you (I think).
I'm now going to SUSPEND ALL OTHER PROJECTS, and Try to get The Einstein Task to Restart, assuming that (even though it appears to be 100% Complete) it may Not Actually Be Finished, and hopefull it will Restart and Finish and Upload.
UPDATE #2: "IT WORKED!"... Einstein Task Restarted and Completed and UPLOADED (see Copy of EVENT LOG Below), and I Received 2 New (E@H) Tasks, which are both currently Running. However, they have a Remaining Time of about 136 hours and a Due Date of March 20th at (approx.) 12h:38m.. I also have 16 Other Tasks (in 4 Projects due between 15th and 19th March, and 3 Tasks for SETI due on 29th March ..... My Preferences are Set for BOINC to Swtch Between Applications Every 60 Minutes. Will All Tasks in All Projects Have Sufficient Time To Finish? The tasks from The Other Projects vary from 1 Hour to 7 Hours, and The SETI Tasks are about 10 Hours each.
Should I Choose NO NEW TASKS on The Other Projects, until I'm confident that I'll have sufficient time to Complete All Tasks, just in case I Receive New Tasks which could be Due Prior To 20th? (This has happened before. I have received New Tasks which have been Added amongst the middle of The Task List, and not at the end of the list, resulting in some of those which were Due at later dates not being Completed by the Due Date/s).
My Computer runs most of the day, and night, but every couple of days I Put It In Sleep Mode, for several hours or overnight, and once or twice a week I Shutdown The Computer Overnight or for a day, to allow things to Cool Down, and also to Conserve Electricity Usage, And should I change the Preferences or not?
6/03/2014 12:37:28 AM | Einstein@Home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
6/03/2014 12:37:28 AM | Einstein@Home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
6/03/2014 12:37:33 AM | Einstein@Home | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
6/03/2014 12:37:35 AM | Einstein@Home | Started download of hsgamma_FGRP3_1.11_windows_intelx86__FGRPSSE.exe
6/03/2014 12:37:35 AM | Einstein@Home | Started download of LATeah0056C.dat
6/03/2014 12:37:43 AM | Einstein@Home | Finished download of LATeah0056C.dat
6/03/2014 12:37:59 AM | Einstein@Home | Finished download of hsgamma_FGRP3_1.11_windows_intelx86__FGRPSSE.exe
6/03/2014 12:38:00 AM | Einstein@Home | Starting task LATeah0056C_608.0_1037330_0.0_1
6/03/2014 12:38:34 AM | Einstein@Home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
6/03/2014 12:38:34 AM | Einstein@Home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
6/03/2014 12:38:39 AM | Einstein@Home | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
6/03/2014 12:41:03 AM | Einstein@Home | Computation for task h1_0794.60_S6Directed__S6CasAf40a_795.55Hz_117_1 finished
6/03/2014 12:41:03 AM | Einstein@Home | Starting task LATeah0056C_608.0_672945_0.0_2
6/03/2014 12:41:05 AM | Einstein@Home | Started upload of h1_0794.60_S6Directed__S6CasAf40a_795.55Hz_117_1_0
6/03/2014 12:41:05 AM | Einstein@Home | Started upload of h1_0794.60_S6Directed__S6CasAf40a_795.55Hz_117_1_1
6/03/2014 12:41:15 AM | Einstein@Home | Finished upload of h1_0794.60_S6Directed__S6CasAf40a_795.55Hz_117_1_0
6/03/2014 12:41:15 AM | Einstein@Home | Finished upload of h1_0794.60_S6Directed__S6CasAf40a_795.55Hz_117_1_1
### BUT !!! It's STILL On My Task List and Appears as it did before.
(I just Deleted a Duplicate Phrase from Aforementioned Text)
BUT !!! It's STILL On My Task List and Appears as it did before.
Uploading is one thing, it's just moving data from your computer's hard drive to a hard drive at the project. To get an updated listing, the result needs to be reported, which BOINC will do separately. Reporting uses the database.
So, if you check your Tasks listing (Show all tasks), the task will probably show as "ready to report". Which it will do within the hour.
... I Received 2 New (E@H) Tasks, which are both currently Running. However, they have a Remaining Time of about 136 hours and a Due Date of March 20th ...
The remaining time is an estimate and you should always treat estimates with caution, particularly if there is a good reason for thinking the value might be quite wrong. I notice you have a e1500 celeron dual core. It should probably take around 20-25 hours to crunch each FGRP3 task. You can always work out your own estimate using simple ratios. If the task has started and made some progress - let's say 20% in 5 hours, it will take approximately 25 hours in total to run the full task. Because of the particular nature of FGRP3 tasks, this method of estimation may also give misleading answers but it should be better than the quoted estimate, particularly if you have at least 5-10% of progress.
So why is the current estimate of 136 hours likely to be bogus? The reason is the S6CasA GW task you have just completed. It took 56 hours run time but only about 39 hours of CPU time. The run time seems longer than it should be and the large difference between the times indicates that a lot of CPU cycles are being taken up by something else, perhaps an out of control anti-virus/anti-malware system for example. If there is anything else 'heavy duty' running on your machine it will cause this blowout of the run time. Do you have any such other software in use? It could even be an OS component chewing up CPU cycles.
If any one task for a particular project takes a lot longer than normal, it will affect the estimates of all subsequent tasks for that project. This is why estimates can be quite unreliable until BOINC gets a chance to gradually correct things from subsequent tasks that complete with lower run times. BOINC will handle this automatically. If you fiddle with things, it's easy to compound the problem in the short term. Just check your two work cache settings and reduce them if they are too large. What two values have you set for those?
And what are the current values for %progress and elapsed time for the two FGRP3 tasks that you said had both started?
RE: I have a Completed
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UPDATE #1: Well, thanks for everyones Input/Sugesstions. I have Replied to each of you (I think).
I'm now going to SUSPEND ALL OTHER PROJECTS, and Try to get The Einstein Task to Restart, assuming that (even though it appears to be 100% Complete) it may Not Actually Be Finished, and hopefull it will Restart and Finish and Upload.
RE: RE: I have a
)
UPDATE #2: "IT WORKED!"... Einstein Task Restarted and Completed and UPLOADED (see Copy of EVENT LOG Below), and I Received 2 New (E@H) Tasks, which are both currently Running. However, they have a Remaining Time of about 136 hours and a Due Date of March 20th at (approx.) 12h:38m.. I also have 16 Other Tasks (in 4 Projects due between 15th and 19th March, and 3 Tasks for SETI due on 29th March ..... My Preferences are Set for BOINC to Swtch Between Applications Every 60 Minutes. Will All Tasks in All Projects Have Sufficient Time To Finish? The tasks from The Other Projects vary from 1 Hour to 7 Hours, and The SETI Tasks are about 10 Hours each.
Should I Choose NO NEW TASKS on The Other Projects, until I'm confident that I'll have sufficient time to Complete All Tasks, just in case I Receive New Tasks which could be Due Prior To 20th? (This has happened before. I have received New Tasks which have been Added amongst the middle of The Task List, and not at the end of the list, resulting in some of those which were Due at later dates not being Completed by the Due Date/s).
My Computer runs most of the day, and night, but every couple of days I Put It In Sleep Mode, for several hours or overnight, and once or twice a week I Shutdown The Computer Overnight or for a day, to allow things to Cool Down, and also to Conserve Electricity Usage, And should I change the Preferences or not?
6/03/2014 12:37:28 AM | Einstein@Home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
6/03/2014 12:37:28 AM | Einstein@Home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
6/03/2014 12:37:33 AM | Einstein@Home | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
6/03/2014 12:37:35 AM | Einstein@Home | Started download of hsgamma_FGRP3_1.11_windows_intelx86__FGRPSSE.exe
6/03/2014 12:37:35 AM | Einstein@Home | Started download of LATeah0056C.dat
6/03/2014 12:37:43 AM | Einstein@Home | Finished download of LATeah0056C.dat
6/03/2014 12:37:59 AM | Einstein@Home | Finished download of hsgamma_FGRP3_1.11_windows_intelx86__FGRPSSE.exe
6/03/2014 12:38:00 AM | Einstein@Home | Starting task LATeah0056C_608.0_1037330_0.0_1
6/03/2014 12:38:34 AM | Einstein@Home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
6/03/2014 12:38:34 AM | Einstein@Home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
6/03/2014 12:38:39 AM | Einstein@Home | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
6/03/2014 12:41:03 AM | Einstein@Home | Computation for task h1_0794.60_S6Directed__S6CasAf40a_795.55Hz_117_1 finished
6/03/2014 12:41:03 AM | Einstein@Home | Starting task LATeah0056C_608.0_672945_0.0_2
6/03/2014 12:41:05 AM | Einstein@Home | Started upload of h1_0794.60_S6Directed__S6CasAf40a_795.55Hz_117_1_0
6/03/2014 12:41:05 AM | Einstein@Home | Started upload of h1_0794.60_S6Directed__S6CasAf40a_795.55Hz_117_1_1
6/03/2014 12:41:15 AM | Einstein@Home | Finished upload of h1_0794.60_S6Directed__S6CasAf40a_795.55Hz_117_1_0
6/03/2014 12:41:15 AM | Einstein@Home | Finished upload of h1_0794.60_S6Directed__S6CasAf40a_795.55Hz_117_1_1
### BUT !!! It's STILL On My Task List and Appears as it did before.
(I just Deleted a Duplicate Phrase from Aforementioned Text)
RE: BUT !!! It's STILL On
)
Uploading is one thing, it's just moving data from your computer's hard drive to a hard drive at the project. To get an updated listing, the result needs to be reported, which BOINC will do separately. Reporting uses the database.
So, if you check your Tasks listing (Show all tasks), the task will probably show as "ready to report". Which it will do within the hour.
RE: ... I Received 2 New
)
The remaining time is an estimate and you should always treat estimates with caution, particularly if there is a good reason for thinking the value might be quite wrong. I notice you have a e1500 celeron dual core. It should probably take around 20-25 hours to crunch each FGRP3 task. You can always work out your own estimate using simple ratios. If the task has started and made some progress - let's say 20% in 5 hours, it will take approximately 25 hours in total to run the full task. Because of the particular nature of FGRP3 tasks, this method of estimation may also give misleading answers but it should be better than the quoted estimate, particularly if you have at least 5-10% of progress.
So why is the current estimate of 136 hours likely to be bogus? The reason is the S6CasA GW task you have just completed. It took 56 hours run time but only about 39 hours of CPU time. The run time seems longer than it should be and the large difference between the times indicates that a lot of CPU cycles are being taken up by something else, perhaps an out of control anti-virus/anti-malware system for example. If there is anything else 'heavy duty' running on your machine it will cause this blowout of the run time. Do you have any such other software in use? It could even be an OS component chewing up CPU cycles.
If any one task for a particular project takes a lot longer than normal, it will affect the estimates of all subsequent tasks for that project. This is why estimates can be quite unreliable until BOINC gets a chance to gradually correct things from subsequent tasks that complete with lower run times. BOINC will handle this automatically. If you fiddle with things, it's easy to compound the problem in the short term. Just check your two work cache settings and reduce them if they are too large. What two values have you set for those?
And what are the current values for %progress and elapsed time for the two FGRP3 tasks that you said had both started?
Cheers,
Gary.