> Every machine is important. All contribute to the whole, and none are
> insignifcant.
>
That's not necessarily true. If a machine is too slow to finish a WU before the deadline, all it's doing is preventing the WU from being validated. In the case of idsid, a lot of WU have been loaded to his machine and it's unlikely they're ever going to be completed. http://einsteinathome.org/host/64585/tasks . This guy is the proverbial slow car in the fast lane. If you can't keep up you need to move on and try something else.
------------------------------------ There's a thin line between Genius and Insanity. That's where I live, baby!
> > Every machine is important. All contribute to the whole, and none are
> > insignifcant.
> >
>
>
> That's not necessarily true. If a machine is too slow to finish a WU before
> the deadline, all it's doing is preventing the WU from being validated. In
> the case of idsid, a lot of WU have been loaded to his machine and it's
> unlikely they're ever going to be completed. http://einsteinathome.org/host/64585/tasks
> . This guy is the proverbial slow car in the fast lane. If you can't keep up
> you need to move on and try something else.
If you look at the work units assigned to his pcs - and especially to those he already completed, you see, that the computers are not to slow at all. Even the slower one has valid results.
To me this looks more like a configuration problem; I think, he should contact the server more often - this would prevent to much wus being assigned to his pcs.
>
> If you look at the work units assigned to his pcs - and especially to those he
> already completed, you see, that the computers are not to slow at all. Even
> the slower one has valid results.
> To me this looks more like a configuration problem; I think, he should contact
> the server more often - this would prevent to much wus being assigned to his
> pcs.
>
> just my 2 cents
>
True, but I think someone got offended when I said that idsid needed to do something to fix his situation to keep the WUs from getting tied up. This project is not one where just anybody can help because of the time limitation.
------------------------------------ There's a thin line between Genius and Insanity. That's where I live, baby!
Quote: "This project is not one where just anybody can help because of the time limitation.
Does this apply only to E@H?
Now - I'm wondering if my participation in Einstein@Home is worthwhile.
I had the impression that a whole mass of machines was the objective, but didn't realise that some machines might not actually be a help at all.
I'm just using the two we have at home here: Mac OS X on each. Both G4 processors, one 800MHz, the other 1.33GHz. They aren't working 24/7. We put them to sleep at night and during the working day while we're out.
Is my participation in E@H worthwhile? I won't be offended if you all laugh and say "No".
As long as the computers make the deadline, the contribution is of great value.
I cannot believe the rudeness of some of the people here! Distributed computing is based on many insignificant contributions being made very significant indeed when put together. The fact is that the participants with just one machine are of bigger value to distributed computing than users with big farms since there are so many of them.
@ Iron Sun 254: You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that you don't contribute if you doesn't make the deadline. On the other hand you don't get any credit either. A good signal that something is wrong...
OK, thanks for the reply, Brage, and for clarifying.
I assume then that if I see a credit against my account for E@H then a worthwhile result was sent in, and the deadline was met.
I'm quite happy to let the thing roll - I'm involved in 4 projects under the BOINC umbrella. I just let it all happen. I'm not that fixated on scores or personal rankings, though I appreciate that some folk might get a lot of fun out of it.
If you haven't seen credit yet it doesn't mean you haven't contributed and moved the project forward. The only sign you're not helping is when you don't finish in time. Even when you finish a work unit, you're credit only appears when the other computers working on the same work unit complete it as well.
------------------------------------ There's a thin line between Genius and Insanity. That's where I live, baby!
At least you got 2 machines, whereas I only have one, juggling between 6 to 7 projects. With only two of the attached projects giving work at the moment... Einstein and CPDN.
If you feel you're inadequate at reaching your goals here, then just keep the faith. When all other projects are out of work, your PCs will sit crunching idle time. Although you can give them a CPDN unit under their belt so they'll always have work. ;)
Iron Sun 254, that's a beautiful avatar you're sporting there! Thanks for the input. I'm beginning to get the idea here. Things are a little different with this project compared with, say, CPDN I guess. Or SETI.
I'll dig around and do a bit more background reading. By the way, how will I know whether I finish in time or not? (Edit: Just found where to see the deadlines!)
Ageless, yeah I'd do it with one machine too, just like you are. It's just circumstances that we have the two here at home. I'll keep the faith! No probs.
I've only been involve with all this BOINC stuff since the 4th of March, so it's early days for me. I waited until I found a front end GUI for it, since I didn't want to start tinkering with Unix, not wishing to invite catatrophe and all.
> Every machine is important.
)
> Every machine is important. All contribute to the whole, and none are
> insignifcant.
>
That's not necessarily true. If a machine is too slow to finish a WU before the deadline, all it's doing is preventing the WU from being validated. In the case of idsid, a lot of WU have been loaded to his machine and it's unlikely they're ever going to be completed. http://einsteinathome.org/host/64585/tasks . This guy is the proverbial slow car in the fast lane. If you can't keep up you need to move on and try something else.
------------------------------------
There's a thin line between Genius and Insanity. That's where I live, baby!
THE SPACEPORT - The Other Side of Space
> > Every machine is
)
> > Every machine is important. All contribute to the whole, and none are
> > insignifcant.
> >
>
>
> That's not necessarily true. If a machine is too slow to finish a WU before
> the deadline, all it's doing is preventing the WU from being validated. In
> the case of idsid, a lot of WU have been loaded to his machine and it's
> unlikely they're ever going to be completed. http://einsteinathome.org/host/64585/tasks
> . This guy is the proverbial slow car in the fast lane. If you can't keep up
> you need to move on and try something else.
If you look at the work units assigned to his pcs - and especially to those he already completed, you see, that the computers are not to slow at all. Even the slower one has valid results.
To me this looks more like a configuration problem; I think, he should contact the server more often - this would prevent to much wus being assigned to his pcs.
just my 2 cents
Every computer can make a
)
Every computer can make a contribution. Even my p90 (although it IS too slow for this project).
BOINC WIKI
> > If you look at the work
)
>
> If you look at the work units assigned to his pcs - and especially to those he
> already completed, you see, that the computers are not to slow at all. Even
> the slower one has valid results.
> To me this looks more like a configuration problem; I think, he should contact
> the server more often - this would prevent to much wus being assigned to his
> pcs.
>
> just my 2 cents
>
True, but I think someone got offended when I said that idsid needed to do something to fix his situation to keep the WUs from getting tied up. This project is not one where just anybody can help because of the time limitation.
------------------------------------
There's a thin line between Genius and Insanity. That's where I live, baby!
THE SPACEPORT - The Other Side of Space
RE: "This project is not
)
Quote: "This project is not one where just anybody can help because of the time limitation.
Does this apply only to E@H?
Now - I'm wondering if my participation in Einstein@Home is worthwhile.
I had the impression that a whole mass of machines was the objective, but didn't realise that some machines might not actually be a help at all.
I'm just using the two we have at home here: Mac OS X on each. Both G4 processors, one 800MHz, the other 1.33GHz. They aren't working 24/7. We put them to sleep at night and during the working day while we're out.
Is my participation in E@H worthwhile? I won't be offended if you all laugh and say "No".
As long as the computers make
)
As long as the computers make the deadline, the contribution is of great value.
I cannot believe the rudeness of some of the people here! Distributed computing is based on many insignificant contributions being made very significant indeed when put together. The fact is that the participants with just one machine are of bigger value to distributed computing than users with big farms since there are so many of them.
@ Iron Sun 254: You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that you don't contribute if you doesn't make the deadline. On the other hand you don't get any credit either. A good signal that something is wrong...
@USAF AMMO and the rest of the mob: behave.
OK, thanks for the reply,
)
OK, thanks for the reply, Brage, and for clarifying.
I assume then that if I see a credit against my account for E@H then a worthwhile result was sent in, and the deadline was met.
I'm quite happy to let the thing roll - I'm involved in 4 projects under the BOINC umbrella. I just let it all happen. I'm not that fixated on scores or personal rankings, though I appreciate that some folk might get a lot of fun out of it.
Einstein would be proud of us. : )
If you haven't seen credit
)
If you haven't seen credit yet it doesn't mean you haven't contributed and moved the project forward. The only sign you're not helping is when you don't finish in time. Even when you finish a work unit, you're credit only appears when the other computers working on the same work unit complete it as well.
------------------------------------
There's a thin line between Genius and Insanity. That's where I live, baby!
THE SPACEPORT - The Other Side of Space
At least you got 2 machines,
)
At least you got 2 machines, whereas I only have one, juggling between 6 to 7 projects. With only two of the attached projects giving work at the moment... Einstein and CPDN.
If you feel you're inadequate at reaching your goals here, then just keep the faith. When all other projects are out of work, your PCs will sit crunching idle time. Although you can give them a CPDN unit under their belt so they'll always have work. ;)
Iron Sun 254, that's a
)
Iron Sun 254, that's a beautiful avatar you're sporting there! Thanks for the input. I'm beginning to get the idea here. Things are a little different with this project compared with, say, CPDN I guess. Or SETI.
I'll dig around and do a bit more background reading. By the way, how will I know whether I finish in time or not? (Edit: Just found where to see the deadlines!)
Ageless, yeah I'd do it with one machine too, just like you are. It's just circumstances that we have the two here at home. I'll keep the faith! No probs.
I've only been involve with all this BOINC stuff since the 4th of March, so it's early days for me. I waited until I found a front end GUI for it, since I didn't want to start tinkering with Unix, not wishing to invite catatrophe and all.
Cheers guys.