320.78 is the 'official' driver offered by nVidia.com for this card...
Did some digging, found the penultimate version 320.49 (apparently the one which will produce the [GPU driver stopped working...] fault message...), will see how this goes...
First of all, check the PSU. If its capacity is under 400W you have to upgrade it. If more - check it for the dust and blown capacitors, though some of them do not blow, they just drain.
First of all, check the PSU. If its capacity is under 400W you have to upgrade it. If more - check it for the dust and blown capacitors, though some of them do not blow, they just drain.
Invalid Advice.
Look at his host details page, both his CPU and GPU have a 'M', that means they are mobile devices, and so means they are in a Laptop,
and means he'll have a Power Brick of around 90Watts, and not a PSU.
Invalid Advice.
Look at his host details page, both his CPU and GPU have a 'M', that means they are mobile devices, and so means they are in a Laptop,
and means he'll have a Power Brick of around 90Watts, and not a PSU.
Ок. Not so invalid as one can think of it. Just look from another point of view. You have to find another suitable power supply to check whether yours is working or not. I had sometimes ago a similar problem. But I diagnosed it only when keyboard and pad suddenly became turned off and then on for several seconds. Then I saw that a flash drive is unplugged suddenly together with keyboard and touch pad. That was a malfunctioned power "brick" as you say. Though it was a brand name and came with netbook, I changed it with another one with suitable parameters (12V, 3.5 Amps). For a year from that time this netbook works perfectly for me. There was parasitic pulsations on a power line generated by PSU, that can even pass through converter for processor power. Or in this case it can produce lower voltage under the load, so the videocard resets when the load exceeds the real capacity of the PSU. When no suitable driver installed, no hardware accelerations are used, thus not using videocard at it full power. But when the driver is on - it leads to a videocard reset, that makes driver to produce BSOD.
P.S. And please, try to turn off the Windows Aero interface. Just to check whether memory capacity of a videocard is not an originator of the problem.
Notebooks have very limited cooling capabilities that are designed to frequently operate CPU and especially GPU relatively close to their maximum temperatures in order to remain acceptably silent.
While casual use (working/gaming) are normally not affected - at best some thermal throttling - running DC with a notebook GPU is putting extreme stress onto that mobile GPU, its components and especially onto the entire Notebook cooling design. These things simply weren't made for that kind of heavy duty use in most cases.
While Desktop Video Cards already aren't designed to 24/7 DC either, active cooling can easily remedy that limitation.
With Notebooks, that is much more difficult (or often just forgotten), I believe CPU and GPU usually share the same heatpipe system due to space limitations.
I can only recommend placing it in a cool area of the house and place a potent notebook cooler beneath it (there are several different models of notebook coolers, usually don't cost much). Giving it plenty of external active cooling should solve those issues, unless it has other issues not considered yet.
In any case, this step will massively prolong the notebook's lifetime (which will suffer when running DC 24/7 on it without additional cooling, especially with the GPU active as well).
On the other hand (if it's older already), could be as simple as using compressed air to clean its cooling components, those things collect alot of dust an are not easy to clean anyway.
Still, I'd never run DC on a notebook CPU without giving it additional cooling, and no way I'd run DC using CPU and GPU without giving it very potent additional cooling. IMHO that would be just asking for trouble, as by default it would run right on its redline limits all the time.
That just isn't healthy for the hardware, Notebooks don't like that over prolonged times.
I recall having my previous Notebook running DC 24/7, until it clearly ran into thermal issues that I couldn't correct despite all cleaning attempts.
Turned out the entire Notebook case (typical plastic) had actually and slowly somewhat deformed over the course of a year, with its center starting to sag down (was standing on its 4 feet that ensure there's some space between the notebook and the table). That deformation eventually caused the mechanical cooling heatpipes in it to slowly lose their 100% grip onto the components, thus losing effectiveness... Took me quite a while to discover that, since I never thought of that possiblity :p
Well, the Toshi is placed on an OEM portrep/dock located on top of an 'office container' with sufficient clearance provided, for hours I'd tested the crap out of it with various 'hardware torturing tools' (no use, neither CPU nor GPU will exceed ~80°C), and the business line has larger power supplies which shows in totally stable readings during them tests... all intakes, duct, heat sinks and fan blades are clean too... due to my biannual cleaning efforts and the fact that the kit is generally handled with utmost care...
And I also don't play games nor do I spend hours over hours on DVD watching on it which could wear down heat transferring contact points on them components...
GPU usage suspended, the two WUs stopped and the kit is happily clocking down the 'regular' WUs...
GPU usage suspended, the two WUs stopped and the kit is happily clocking down the 'regular' WUs...
Promising begining.
Now I've got an issue with my new GTX 650 Ti 2Gb. It works fine for about 2 weeks under the E@H load. No computation errors. But when I try to pause GPU usage - it hangs with blank screen. I still can switch to a secondary Intel video and see that mouse works, but cannot do anything because secondary screen is empty (wallpaper only). This can happen rather often even whithout BOINC started at all. I just start any browser and try to look at any flash (e.g. YouTube). Or I can play World of Tanks for hours without any glitch, but when I exit, I get a sudden reboot. Clean driver install doesn't help. Lowering PCI-E frequencies and changing the mode from x16 to x8 and even x4 doesn't help. Lowering processor (i5-3470 at 3.2 GHz) frequencies and rasing up voltages for it and for memory doesn't help too. Removing 1 memory bank (4 GB DDR 1333 noname, tested) thus turning interleaving off doesn't help either.
Old video is GTX 560 which requires 450W power supply. This new card requires only 400W power supply, while my PSU is capable of 580W.
I'm starting to thing that I have to replace the card while it is covered by guarantee. I saw such a bug with motherboards for P-3 long ago. Replacing capacitors helps to resolve the problem. But this card is new, so I'll not do this myself. The problem is how to replay the problem in the guarantee center, because I don't want to bring them my computer for 2 weeks (they take at least 2 weeks for tests and possible recover)?
The problem is how to replay the problem in the guarantee center
Methinks the dealer will back out anyway, claiming BOINC not being a 'regular PC application'...
Agree. But it reboots only when BOINC is not started or already stopped. Under the BOINC GPU tasks it works fine, I can even play games and watch videos. I think I should argue this somehow.
320.78 is the 'official'
)
320.78 is the 'official' driver offered by nVidia.com for this card...
Did some digging, found the penultimate version 320.49 (apparently the one which will produce the [GPU driver stopped working...] fault message...), will see how this goes...
This is starting to grow tamagotchi-ish... :-/
thanx for the efforts!
Well, another BSOD
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Well, another BSOD occurred...
So effective immediately all GPU usage is suspended...
All currently loaded WUs will time out...
Sorry, I've given up.
First of all, check the PSU.
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First of all, check the PSU. If its capacity is under 400W you have to upgrade it. If more - check it for the dust and blown capacitors, though some of them do not blow, they just drain.
RE: First of all, check the
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Invalid Advice.
Look at his host details page, both his CPU and GPU have a 'M', that means they are mobile devices, and so means they are in a Laptop,
and means he'll have a Power Brick of around 90Watts, and not a PSU.
Claggy
RE: Invalid Advice. Look at
)
Ок. Not so invalid as one can think of it. Just look from another point of view. You have to find another suitable power supply to check whether yours is working or not. I had sometimes ago a similar problem. But I diagnosed it only when keyboard and pad suddenly became turned off and then on for several seconds. Then I saw that a flash drive is unplugged suddenly together with keyboard and touch pad. That was a malfunctioned power "brick" as you say. Though it was a brand name and came with netbook, I changed it with another one with suitable parameters (12V, 3.5 Amps). For a year from that time this netbook works perfectly for me. There was parasitic pulsations on a power line generated by PSU, that can even pass through converter for processor power. Or in this case it can produce lower voltage under the load, so the videocard resets when the load exceeds the real capacity of the PSU. When no suitable driver installed, no hardware accelerations are used, thus not using videocard at it full power. But when the driver is on - it leads to a videocard reset, that makes driver to produce BSOD.
P.S. And please, try to turn off the Windows Aero interface. Just to check whether memory capacity of a videocard is not an originator of the problem.
I think transient is onto
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I think transient is onto something.
Notebooks have very limited cooling capabilities that are designed to frequently operate CPU and especially GPU relatively close to their maximum temperatures in order to remain acceptably silent.
While casual use (working/gaming) are normally not affected - at best some thermal throttling - running DC with a notebook GPU is putting extreme stress onto that mobile GPU, its components and especially onto the entire Notebook cooling design. These things simply weren't made for that kind of heavy duty use in most cases.
While Desktop Video Cards already aren't designed to 24/7 DC either, active cooling can easily remedy that limitation.
With Notebooks, that is much more difficult (or often just forgotten), I believe CPU and GPU usually share the same heatpipe system due to space limitations.
I can only recommend placing it in a cool area of the house and place a potent notebook cooler beneath it (there are several different models of notebook coolers, usually don't cost much). Giving it plenty of external active cooling should solve those issues, unless it has other issues not considered yet.
In any case, this step will massively prolong the notebook's lifetime (which will suffer when running DC 24/7 on it without additional cooling, especially with the GPU active as well).
On the other hand (if it's older already), could be as simple as using compressed air to clean its cooling components, those things collect alot of dust an are not easy to clean anyway.
Still, I'd never run DC on a notebook CPU without giving it additional cooling, and no way I'd run DC using CPU and GPU without giving it very potent additional cooling. IMHO that would be just asking for trouble, as by default it would run right on its redline limits all the time.
That just isn't healthy for the hardware, Notebooks don't like that over prolonged times.
I recall having my previous Notebook running DC 24/7, until it clearly ran into thermal issues that I couldn't correct despite all cleaning attempts.
Turned out the entire Notebook case (typical plastic) had actually and slowly somewhat deformed over the course of a year, with its center starting to sag down (was standing on its 4 feet that ensure there's some space between the notebook and the table). That deformation eventually caused the mechanical cooling heatpipes in it to slowly lose their 100% grip onto the components, thus losing effectiveness... Took me quite a while to discover that, since I never thought of that possiblity :p
Well, the Toshi is placed on
)
Well, the Toshi is placed on an OEM portrep/dock located on top of an 'office container' with sufficient clearance provided, for hours I'd tested the crap out of it with various 'hardware torturing tools' (no use, neither CPU nor GPU will exceed ~80°C), and the business line has larger power supplies which shows in totally stable readings during them tests... all intakes, duct, heat sinks and fan blades are clean too... due to my biannual cleaning efforts and the fact that the kit is generally handled with utmost care...
And I also don't play games nor do I spend hours over hours on DVD watching on it which could wear down heat transferring contact points on them components...
GPU usage suspended, the two WUs stopped and the kit is happily clocking down the 'regular' WUs...
cheers!
RE: GPU usage suspended,
)
Promising begining.
Now I've got an issue with my new GTX 650 Ti 2Gb. It works fine for about 2 weeks under the E@H load. No computation errors. But when I try to pause GPU usage - it hangs with blank screen. I still can switch to a secondary Intel video and see that mouse works, but cannot do anything because secondary screen is empty (wallpaper only). This can happen rather often even whithout BOINC started at all. I just start any browser and try to look at any flash (e.g. YouTube). Or I can play World of Tanks for hours without any glitch, but when I exit, I get a sudden reboot. Clean driver install doesn't help. Lowering PCI-E frequencies and changing the mode from x16 to x8 and even x4 doesn't help. Lowering processor (i5-3470 at 3.2 GHz) frequencies and rasing up voltages for it and for memory doesn't help too. Removing 1 memory bank (4 GB DDR 1333 noname, tested) thus turning interleaving off doesn't help either.
Old video is GTX 560 which requires 450W power supply. This new card requires only 400W power supply, while my PSU is capable of 580W.
I'm starting to thing that I have to replace the card while it is covered by guarantee. I saw such a bug with motherboards for P-3 long ago. Replacing capacitors helps to resolve the problem. But this card is new, so I'll not do this myself. The problem is how to replay the problem in the guarantee center, because I don't want to bring them my computer for 2 weeks (they take at least 2 weeks for tests and possible recover)?
RE: The problem is how to
)
Methinks the dealer will back out anyway, claiming BOINC not being a 'regular PC application'...
RE: RE: The problem is
)
Agree. But it reboots only when BOINC is not started or already stopped. Under the BOINC GPU tasks it works fine, I can even play games and watch videos. I think I should argue this somehow.